Gibbous Moon wrote:Prevention is better than cure.
The sick can’t work and it costs money to bury them.
Herd immunity.
Collective bargaining.
Economies of scale.
Game theory shows that it is the most economically efficient way of dealing with risk.
It’s just the decent thing to do.
The measure of a civilised society is not the gap between rich and poor but what that country is doing about it.
Very good reasons given
Gibbous Moon
DanMc wrote:I usually give the religious stuff a wide berth, but I think it's relevant to say that according to the 4 new testament gospels which are included in the Bible at no point did Jesus ask for proof of private medical insurance before healing the sick. Would that make him a liberal?
DanMc, I can't say what political view Jesus would have held. He maintained a loyalty and discipline to a high set of standards .
He healed all that believed and he didn't discriminate who received his miracles. As you stated, he didn't ask for insurance but he did ask, in exchange or not, however he asked for their trust. Insurance - trust - money.... we give, we receive.
Fred,
US Hospitals and emergency rooms will take in the sick with the ability to pay or not. No one will be denied health services at most any of our hospitals. If they are, they will still be transferred to another hospital when the patient is stabilized, if in critical condition. We can and should include medical services now to all our people through taxation or we can let the hospitals assume bad debt and the government will eventually pay for it anyway (deeper debt). We have already over extended our spending. A big part our expense is the luxury of our military power and security. Lets take care of health expenses as we do with domestic infrastructure and education. Do you want us further in debt to China and Japan because we need their money to pay for our debts? Okay... I know it goes beyond need. It's business. Smoosing, as I see it.
Fred, Consider this... I have NO children. I ask you, why should I pay for your children's education? BTW, I sure don't mind money spent to educate.... yeah, even my money to educate all children. The educated are able to contribute to society which enables us all to an advantage. You should want this too since you point out "idiots" many times a day. To educate is to empower. As you say.... "Teach a man to fish". To keep a man healthy is to keep a society healthy as well. I refer you to the above post by
Gibbous Moon. If a man is not well, he is unable to contribute his share.
As for your replies to
GM answers to
your question.... look again at it, Please, from an economic stance... as if it were your own household expenditures verses receivables. I don't want dead beats parasites anymore than you. Perhaps there needs to be a more challenging point and merit system in the USA, working (in a way) as Social Security is now, yet more defined. As it is now, if you don't work, you don't contribute to SS and you get back nothing when you reach the required age for withdrawl from your contribution to the program. The monthly amount received from Social Security payments are based on one's total lifetime work earnings.
IF there were an incentive (can't think of another incentive to work than support myself) for productivity and contributions, then . . .
I think I was on to something, I just don't know what it is. There has to be other ways to inspire our fellow Americans, especially the young to claim independence with pride. Back again to education. I think our education system should pay for college or let's extend HS to 14 years. Economics required. And.... male and female Jr High and HS students required to carry an uncooked egg in the shell for lessons in consequences. PE classes... again mandatory. This relates directly to the issue of health/insurance/medical.
Sorry for the long scattered thoughts.
Why should you pay for my health care? Because I pay for your children to be educated.
