The Obama Thread - Original Vintage Edition

[Big Ben]

No, I think he'd be a pretty cool guy to go on a photo hike in Western Australia with. Let’s cool the rhetoric and be friends.

Suit yourself, cambridge!

While taking note your friend's unprovoked pot shots, here and throughout the forum.

I have already seen a lot of what I want to see in Australia. I've been to Sydney, Alice Springs, Bungle Bungle, the Great Barrier Reef/Cairns, Uluru. I've played tennis with the locals in Broome and substituted for a team member in a local tennis league in Darwin. I've found most Australians to be good, friendly people.

[ZiaAries]

Did anyone see the Rick Warren question and answer session with Obama and McCain?

[Cambridge]

No, I think he'd be a pretty cool guy to go on a photo hike in Western Australia with. Let’s cool the rhetoric and be friends.

Suit yourself, cambridge!

While taking note your friend's unprovoked pot shots, here and throughout the forum.

I have already seen a lot of what I want to see in Australia. I've been to Sydney, Alice Springs, Bungle Bungle, the Great Barrier Reef/Cairns, Uluru. I've played tennis with the locals in Broome and substituted for a team member in a local tennis league in Darwin. I've found most Australians to be good, friendly people.

Unfortunately, I've never been there. I would love to go someday. I agree, the ozzies are great people...and I lov em all the more cause they stood with us in the PacificWar.

[Big Ben]

Did anyone see the Rick Warren question and answer session with Obama and McCain?

Now everyone can see them:

http://trevinwax.com/2008/08/17/obama-mccain-with-rick-warren-at-saddleback-forum-video/

[Big Ben]

No, I think he'd be a pretty cool guy to go on a photo hike in Western Australia with. Let’s cool the rhetoric and be friends.

Suit yourself, cambridge!

While taking note your friend's unprovoked pot shots, here and throughout the forum.

I have already seen a lot of what I want to see in Australia. I've been to Sydney, Alice Springs, Bungle Bungle, the Great Barrier Reef/Cairns, Uluru. I've played tennis with the locals in Broome and substituted for a team member in a local tennis league in Darwin. I've found most Australians to be good, friendly people.

Unfortunately, I've never been there. I would love to go someday. I agree, the ozzies are great people...and I lov em all the more cause they stood with us in the PacificWar.

Yes, they did stand with America in WWII, as Japan was getting close to their shores. But I think the real defining moment for Australia militarily came in WWI, as part of ANZAC in the Battle of Gallipoli:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gallipoli

When I was in Turkey, I stopped by for a visit. It was an incredible battle, with huge loses on both sides, much of it due to disease. The Turkish to this day commemorate the efforts of both sides.

[Cambridge]

No, I think he'd be a pretty cool guy to go on a photo hike in Western Australia with. Let’s cool the rhetoric and be friends.

Suit yourself, cambridge!

While taking note your friend's unprovoked pot shots, here and throughout the forum.

I have already seen a lot of what I want to see in Australia. I've been to Sydney, Alice Springs, Bungle Bungle, the Great Barrier Reef/Cairns, Uluru. I've played tennis with the locals in Broome and substituted for a team member in a local tennis league in Darwin. I've found most Australians to be good, friendly people.

Unfortunately, I've never been there. I would love to go someday. I agree, the ozzies are great people...and I lov em all the more cause they stood with us in the PacificWar.

Yes, they did stand with America in WWII, as Japan was getting close to their shores. But I think the real defining moment for Australia militarily came in WWI, as part of ANZAC in the Battle of Gallipoli:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gallipoli

When I was in Turkey, I stopped by for a visit. It was an incredible battle, with huge loses on both sides, much of it due to disease. The Turkish to this day commemorate the efforts of both sides.

Yer, there have been many films made of that. It may have been their finest moment. But, for me, they were the ones who stood with us sholder-to-sholder in the PacificWar. That will never be forgotten by this single soul.

[ZiaAries]

Did anyone see the Rick Warren question and answer session with Obama and McCain?

Now everyone can see them:

http://trevinwax.com/2008/08/17/obama-mccain-with-rick-warren-at-saddleback-forum-video/

Sorry, I think I was really asking the Americans the question. So.... Yo Ben, did YOU watch it last night? I did. I loved the questions asked. It reenforces my confidence in who I've chosen to vote for.

[Big Ben]

When Russia attacked Georgia, McCain immediately called it an invasion, while obama asked both sides to show restraint.

With Pakistan in turmoil, who do you really trust to handle the situation? Musharraf resigns:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/pakistan

[Cambridge]

When Russia attacked Georgia, McCain immediately called it an invasion, while obama asked both sides to show restraint.

With Pakistan in turmoil, who do you really trust to handle the situation? Musharraf resigns:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/pakistan

I don't know about Obama, but McCain's response was somewhat shortsighted given that the US military potential is a bit stretched at the moment. And Russia is a bit more than Pakistan.

[boingo]

Sorry, this is off-topic, but related to an earlier post.

No, I think he'd be a pretty cool guy to go on a photo hike in Western Australia with. Let’s cool the rhetoric and be friends.

Suit yourself, cambridge!

While taking note your friend's unprovoked pot shots, here and throughout the forum.

I have already seen a lot of what I want to see in Australia. I've been to Sydney, Alice Springs, Bungle Bungle, the Great Barrier Reef/Cairns, Uluru. I've played tennis with the locals in Broome and substituted for a team member in a local tennis league in Darwin. I've found most Australians to be good, friendly people.

Unfortunately, I've never been there. I would love to go someday. I agree, the ozzies are great people...and I lov em all the more cause they stood with us in the PacificWar.

Yes, they did stand with America in WWII, as Japan was getting close to their shores. But I think the real defining moment for Australia militarily came in WWI, as part of ANZAC in the Battle of Gallipoli:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gallipoli

When I was in Turkey, I stopped by for a visit. It was an incredible battle, with huge loses on both sides, much of it due to disease. The Turkish to this day commemorate the efforts of both sides.

We have a public "holiday" for Anzac day on the 25th of April. While it is a day when all businesses close and is classed as a "public holiday" it's really a commemoration day to remember the Anzacs. In every capital city, there's a 6am memorial with The Last Post is played on a bugle followed by one minutes silence in memorium of the original landing in Gallipoli and those who lost their lives.
There's more about it here: http://www.awm.gov.au/commemoration/anzac/

[ZiaAries]

When Russia attacked Georgia, McCain immediately called it an invasion, while obama asked both sides to show restraint.

With Pakistan in turmoil, who do you really trust to handle the situation? Musharraf resigns:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/pakistan

I don't know about Obama, but McCain's response was somewhat shortsighted given that the US military potential is a bit stretched at the moment. And Russia is a bit more than Pakistan.

I don't think the Saddlebrook debate was one of Obama's finer moments at all. I also don't think he really believes in everything he says he stands for.

They say George Bush is religious, whew.....I have never heard a political candidate quote scripture as heavily as Obama. And he conveniently and completely by-passed the question about "when does life begin" in regards to abortion.

[Big Ben]

When Russia attacked Georgia, McCain immediately called it an invasion, while obama asked both sides to show restraint.

With Pakistan in turmoil, who do you really trust to handle the situation? Musharraf resigns:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/pakistan

I don't know about Obama, but McCain's response was somewhat shortsighted given that the US military potential is a bit stretched at the moment. And Russia is a bit more than Pakistan.

I don't think the Saddlebrook debate was one of Obama's finer moments at all. I also don't think he really believes in everything he says he stands for.

They say George Bush is religious, whew.....I have never heard a political candidate quote scripture as heavily as Obama. And he conveniently and completely by-passed the question about "when does life begin" in regards to abortion.

cambridge, of course it is difficult for America to take on Russia. But that isn't the point. The point is that McCain had the experience and judgment to immediately recognize the Russian-Georgia situation as an invasion, while obama's gut reaction is that the Russians aren't the bad guys and he urges Georgia (and Russia) to show restraint. It took obama a couple days to realize what was going on, even with the help of the event unfolding (hindsight), the press and his advisors.

Zia, in the Saddlebrook debate a defining moment was when both candidates were asked whether evil should be ignored, confronted or defeated. obama weakly and hedgingly said it should be confronted. McCain decisively and passionately said evil must be defeated.

In these dangerous times, who do you want as Commander-in-Chief protecting your country?

[Cambridge]

Someone a bit more temperate, for a change. Being commander-in-chief is a tad more than rattling sabers, I'm afraid. I can’t believe that McCain didn’t see the same thing that Obama, you and I saw. I want someone in there who knows what to do, and all of the measures that are at his or her disposal (i.e. not just the military), and has the savvy to know when to use which.

TBH, I get the sense that McCain isn’t even in charge of his own campaign. Increasingly, I find him opting for code words and slogans instead of issues and—God forgive me for saying it—leadership.

You’ve got to admit, he’s got that constant ‘deer in the headlights’ look.

[Big Ben]

Someone a bit more temperate, for a change. Being commander-in-chief is a tad more than rattling sabers, I'm afraid. I can’t believe that McCain didn’t see the same thing that Obama, you and I saw. I want someone in there who knows what to do, and all of the measures that are at his or her disposal (i.e. not just the military), and has the savvy to know when to use which.

TBH, I get the sense that McCain isn’t even in charge of his own campaign. Increasingly, I find him opting for code words and slogans instead of issues and—God forgive me for saying it—leadership.

You’ve got to admit, he’s got that constant ‘deer in the headlights’ look.

So are you saying that Russia didn't invade Georgia?

If not, what were Russian troops doing in Georgia when they were displacing civilians, blowing up infrastructure and setting up shop as close as 30 miltes from the Georgian capital? Why won't they leave and why in NATO expressing displeasure?

[Lena]

Obama is on the eve of anoucing his running mate . They say on tv will be somebody who can appeal to blue collar white males ................I wonder who ?

Sad to say still think gramps is going to win . They say on tv he will name a right winger ...................lucky us