why can't men wear skirts ?

[Alf Huckham]

They live in a fantasy world here.

I love it.

You couldn't make it up.

[JeffB3000]

I'm not make-believe, Alf, even if your posts are I've seen your pix, I wont comment. You're scared of the unknown. Let me put your mind at rest, Alf, just look at this.




Nothing wrong with a guy in a skirt. I'm just goin' about my business, not hurtin' anyone. Just stop hatin' Alf.

Girls, does my outfit look okay or should I lose the shoes and wear trainers?

Comment please

Jeff

[Usquanigo]

I'm not make-believe, Alf, even if your posts are I've seen your pix, I wont comment. You're scared of the unknown. Let me put your mind at rest, Alf, just look at this.




Nothing wrong with a guy in a skirt. I'm just goin' about my business, not hurtin' anyone. Just stop hatin' Alf.

Girls, does my outfit look okay or should I lose the shoes and wear trainers?

Comment please

Jeff

Alf isn't hating. You guys are. See, you come in here, going on about how men should wear skirts, and how society is so mean to you, and shouting about "fashion freedom", and Alf just represents a bit of reality in your fantasy, a bit of rain on your parade. And so you hate him.

You DO have the freedom to wear whatever you like. You don't want that. You want there to be no consequences. You want the reality of gender to disappear, which illustrates your disconnect with reality, and lack of understanding of most any element of it.

Honestly, I don't think Alf gives a rats ass WHAT you wear, or where you wear it. He's just pointing out that you look ridiculous. I am mere explaining why (but some of you don't want to hear it).

As for that pic, those shoes make a, as Alf would say, daft look, look even worse. I don't think sneakers would help, but they wouldn't hurt. That's a damned if you do, damned if you don't, because it's just too feminine, matched with too preppy a shirt, so nothing will fix anything without also creating other problems.

What nobody has ever been able to asnwer here - what is the obsession? Seriously. Why MUST you wear skirt? Why can't it at least be a kilt? And why does it have to be open in the middle? And why is it SOOO important that you want all of society to change it's views, contrary to nature, just to suit you tiny few?

Don't give me crap about male anatomy and comfort. I know full well about that, and I've never disagreed with the logic at the core of that. HOWEVER.... there are other ways around that, namely properly fitted clothes, loose shorts, etc. (combined with the right underwear). Basically, you guys have no problems that can't be solved by other, better solutions, so if "anatomy" is you're only excuse, then it's time to own up to some freakishness.

[JeffB3000]

But it prevents cancer! It's a proven medical fact.

If you don't like the shirt, then what's wrong with this.



I look smart, and none too feminine. There's nothing daft about this. Usquanigo, are you female? I was hoping for a woman's insight on this. I do have flat shoes if you hate my heels. I just think men should dress up and look smart, that's all

If you hate the shirt in the original picture, I'll change to my white one.



There. Better. Not so preppy. In this photo, I was desperate for a wee, so I had to quickly take it. I was paying my photographer by the hour and trust me it was expensive.

You seem like the people who stamp down on other people's freedoms. After alll the thread is Why Can't Men Wear Skirts. I've shown you can, I go out every day in this, I've even been to interviews and meetings in a pencil skirt, and it's never bothered anyone. I'm still waiting to hear back from most of them, but they've had a lot to short-list. They all want flamboyant outgoing people.

Skirt don't change who I am and how I handle my business. Its time you see and accept that. This is what women want nowdays, and YOU CANT HANDLE IT. FACT

[KiltyCol.]

Jeff, don't bother, mate. Usquanigo hates us.

There's nothing wrong with what we wear. This looks fine, so don't watch for these idiots.



I'm still a manly guy. It's just material.

Colin

[KiltyCol.]

F u c k! It didnt come out right.

There's the link. Enjoy.

[SkirtCafe]

We're invading your world, Usquanigo and Alf.

Get used to us. We've no plans to leave this scene. This will be another mode of men's clothes in less than 5 years, guaranteed.




It looks cool, sexy, and women love it. You should try it for yourself. Sorry about Colin's language, he's hurting after his recent separation due to his fashion choices. Some women hate it, but not the majority. But he's a tough cookie, prepared to lose her for what he believes in.

Why not give it a try, Usquanigo. Or if you want, try a kilt. They're only £35.

www.thescotlandkiltcompany.co.uk

I still respect your views, even if some are more vocal in fighting back like Bushwalker. He's one of our longest serving members.
I know it's just a matter of time.

Nothing to be scared of, just venture outside. You'll wonder why you didnt do it earlier. [/img]

[Alf Huckham]

We're invading your world, Usquanigo and Alf.
Get used to us. We've no plans to leave this scene. This will be another mode of men's clothes in less than 5 years, guaranteed.




It looks cool, sexy, and women love it. You should try it for yourself. Sorry about Colin's language, he's hurting after his recent separation due to his fashion choices. Some women hate it, but not the majority. But he's a tough cookie, prepared to lose her for what he believes in.

Why not give it a try, Usquanigo. Or if you want, try a kilt. They're only £35.

www.thescotlandkiltcompany.co.uk

I still respect your views, even if some are more vocal in fighting back like Bushwalker. He's one of our longest serving members.
I know it's just a matter of time.

Nothing to be scared of, just venture outside. You'll wonder why you didnt do it earlier. [/img]

Yeah....right.

[Usquanigo]

But it prevents cancer! It's a proven medical fact.

Resorting to making S*** up so soon?

If you don't like the shirt, then what's wrong with this.



I look smart, and none too feminine. There's nothing daft about this.

Ho-ly S***..... you have GOT to be kidding me. Seriously, you can't POSSIBLY be serious here. There is no way in hell.

Usquanigo, are you female? I was hoping for a woman's insight on this. I do have flat shoes if you hate my heels. I just think men should dress up and look smart, that's all

And just how and where did you get the idea that looking like a very confused cross-dresser is, in any way, "smart"?

There. Better. Not so preppy. In this photo, I was desperate for a wee, so I had to quickly take it. I was paying my photographer by the hour and trust me it was expensive.

Love the excuses. I wouldn't be surprised that it would be expensive, hell, you'd be hard pressed to pay me enough to be the photog for something like that. And it would definitely require a tripod to keep it steady while laughing. lol

You seem like the people who stamp down on other people's freedoms.

LOL Ok, now this is good. You don't know a thing about me, or reality, clearly, and so you lash out with this knee-jerk response, showing no thought, and no effort what-so-ever.

Hey, you have the freedom to look like a joke. And I have the freedom to tell you that you do. But it's that second part that you don't like. Ah well, so sorry. And you should also be grateful, because I'm giving you background and information, not just short insults, like others may (or do).

As for the nature of that info, well, you might as well hate that the sky is blue, as much as hate the message here. It'll do you about as much good, and change things about as much.

I'm not going to repeat myself incessantly here. If you want to have a discussion about the background and reasons, surprise me, step up. Get registered, re-read this thread, and the fashion freedom thread on the other side, THEN come back abd talk to me. Otherwise, stop wasting our time. To do anything other than that is simply being a whining cry-baby who isn't willing to face reality. If you really are the "man" you claim to be, then man up.

After alll the thread is Why Can't Men Wear Skirts. I've shown you can, I go out every day in this, I've even been to interviews and meetings in a pencil skirt, and it's never bothered anyone. I'm still waiting to hear back from most of them, but they've had a lot to short-list. They all want flamboyant outgoing people.

And that just isn't sinking in. lol BTW, here's another piece of info you won't like - just because people refrain from making snide remarks, does NOT mean that they are "ok" with it. Hell, they may even compliment it due to their uneasiness, but that still doesn't make it genuine.

Skirt don't change who I am and how I handle my business. Its time you see and accept that. This is what women want nowdays, and YOU CANT HANDLE IT. FACT

This is just too much.

Got that backwards there "guy", it's who you are that dictates the clothes, not the other way 'round.

And I love the caps at the end there. Really, women want men in skirts do they? Interesting. And just how many girlfriends do you have at any one time? How many guys have come up to you asking you your secret, to which you reply "the skirt" and they follow suit and have similar experience? How many men in considered "hot" by women wear women's clothes exactly?

Even the term "metrosexual" is getting backlash because women don't want a guy who fusses over his appearance as much as they do. No, they want a MAN. Which necessarily precludes skirts. Sorry.

You just don't like the message, so you lash out at the messsenger, and only serve to make yourself look like an uneducated idiot. So go on then, pick up that gauntlet.

[JeffB3000]

Well I've come close to having a girlfriend and that was only last week. I've joined Match.com and Dating Direct. I've put in my profile I'm a hot black guy whos a snappy dresser. When they read I look like 50Cent they are jumping all over my S***. Trust me, Usquanigo, the look works, heh!

I wore a skirt when I flew to New York and girls couldnt stop staring at me . One group of girls I met wanted to take my photo, that was so cool. I chilled out and didn't want to rush anything. One of the girls, Melissa, gave me her number, but when I rang it once in NY, it was an answerphone for a bus company. Perhaps she works there. I'll call her again later when I'm back in the UK.

Back to the skirt thing. I even changed in the airport loo to a tight pencil skirt before I boarded. It was just below my knee, but I think people could see my knickers line . I should have worn a Thong. The flight was good, but Customs gave me hell and treated me like I'm a terrorist.
That's what happens as a black guy.

After they saw I'm no threat, I was able to continue my journey. I've packed a mini kilt in case people don't dig the skirts. I've got a few cheeky little denim ones which I'll save for the clubs. Women were staring at me, I know that's what they want.

People like you Usquanigo are keen to take the p!ss out of bold folk like me, but I've got photographic proof that the girls love me dressed like this. It's just another option for men. Men CAN wear skirts. It's just as cool as jeans.

The trip took my mind off not being able to find work, but it's tough for a brotha. It was the last of my Redundancy from my previous employer who I shan't mention, but they claim I made people feel uncomfortable. I'm suing their ass, and Tribunals are looking into it for me. I'm gonna make a fortune when my cheque comes in from the Court Service. I can survive on loans for now until work picks up.

I live by myself, so I'm a free spirit. I've got pairs of jeans, and any girl I get with will have to accept that side of me. Men can look great in skirts. Instead of cussin', you should try it. Where do you live, I'll come over and we can make a day of it, mate. You'll wonder why you never started wearing skirts earlier

Later

Jeff

[Alf Huckham]

Don't be stupid.

[Usquanigo]

Well I've come close to having a girlfriend and that was only last week. I've joined Match.com and Dating Direct

Trust me, Usquanigo, the look works, heh!

It's pure comedy gold how blind you are to reality, even when you state it, you still can't see it.

I wore a skirt when I flew to New York and girls couldnt stop staring at me . One group of girls I met wanted to take my photo, that was so cool.

People stop and stare at accidents and train wrecks too. And everyone loves a good freak show. Used to be a part of society like the circus, in fact.

I chilled out and didn't want to rush anything. One of the girls, Melissa, gave me her number, but when I rang it once in NY, it was an answerphone for a bus company. Perhaps she works there. I'll call her again later when I'm back in the UK.

You got the fake number, and ate it up hook-line-and-sinker. There's a reason you got the fake number dude, it's a common practice.

Back to the skirt thing. I even changed in the airport loo to a tight pencil skirt before I boarded. It was just below my knee, but I think people could see my knickers line . I should have worn a Thong. The flight was good, but Customs gave me hell and treated me like I'm a terrorist.
That's what happens as a black guy.

You F****** worthless asshole. Always playing the race card. So typical. Did you call up Jesse Jackson too?

If ANYone is racially profiled in airports today, it's habibs and hasiims, not tyrone and leroy. But when you have someone who's clearly a freak, well, surprise surprise, what else are they supposed to do? You're unstable, so god only knows what else you might be planning or trying to do.

But in reality, I bet you weren't hassled the least little bit more than anyone else, you just can't resist playing that damn race card at the drop of a hat.

Women were staring at me, I know that's what they want.

As noted previously, you're a freak, they were enjoying the show - and quite possibly wondering where they could get the item of clothing in question for themselves. And that's all it was. You demonstrated that above in your own post even. lol

People like you Usquanigo are keen to take the p!ss out of bold folk like me

People like me? So what kind of person am I then? Tell me a little about myself. Here's a hint, I've littered these fora with info about me, what I do, what I wear, and where I stand and why. Are you going to pick up that gauntlet I dropped, or just sit here and cry like a bitch?

The trip took my mind off not being able to find work, but it's tough for a brotha.

No it's not. Rev Jesse and Malcom X and Al Sharpton have all instituted racism as a gov't policy, giving preferential treatment to people of the black persuasion. Even if "you" are under qualified for the position, companies have to hire you (even if other, more qualified applicants are in the queue), if they are below a certain percentage of employees.

However, dress codes are an easy way to dismiss someone. Like showing up in pajamas. It signals that you are not serious about the job, or yourself, and they will pass you over, no matter how qualified you are, or how badly they need to meet quota (and it's the same if not worse for people who seem like they are not all there, such as a guy wearing a skirt or something like that).

It was the last of my Redundancy from my previous employer who I shan't mention, but they claim I made people feel uncomfortable.

Uh, duh! How can you possibly still be alive and breathing if you can't see something so obvious and simple?

I'm suing their ass, and Tribunals are looking into it for me. I'm gonna make a fortune when my cheque comes in from the Court Service.

We'll see. But I wouldn't bet on it. If you failed to meet dress code, or were getting complaints, their hands would be tied and they would be well within thier rights to do so. And it's far too easy to make it look that way after the fact too.

Instead of cussin', you should try it. Where do you live, I'll come over and we can make a day of it, mate. You'll wonder why you never started wearing skirts earlier

Sorry, I don't hang out with guys who wear skirts. Besides which, you'd scream like a bitch if you had to go anywhere in my car, or when you set foot into the range. Even a soft 9mm would be too much for you, I'm sure.

Here -

I'm not going to repeat myself incessantly here. If you want to have a discussion about the background and reasons, surprise me, step up. Get registered, re-read this thread, and the fashion freedom thread on the other side, THEN come back abd talk to me. Otherwise, stop wasting our time. To do anything other than that is simply being a whining cry-baby who isn't willing to face reality. If you really are the "man" you claim to be, then man up.

Time to put up or shut up. Take up the challenge (to the letter) or go away.

[Alf Huckham]

Got u r work cut out with this lot matey!

[alf's butt-buddy]

alf and usqui-whateverthefuckthatis...

you two seem to enjoy taking potshots at whomever you like, but don't seem to like it when somebody takes a shot at you.

this is the most prominent personality trait of most bigoted inbred undereducated people, and you two have got the market CORNERED on uneducated bigots.

none of your posts have ANY kind of constructive criticism to them, and most of alf's are simply repetitive one-liners.

i may belong to a generation that YOU can't imagine would have anything useful to add to any exchange, but i know when a man has done something that pushed his own boundaries of courage.

jeff has done this. and then he has tried to share it with others that MIGHT have an interest in it.

this takes courage. i say this as a veteran with 3 different combat tours under my belt. his actions, and the chronicling of them here, take personal fortitude that you two couldn't HOPE to match.

now go ahead, alf. find the spelling errors. good little boy.

and usquihackapalidropols, go ahead and disparage my support of jeff's actions.

but at the end of it all, you two will just show yourselves to be the self-centered and small-minded bigots that you are.

just think, people DIED for your right to be assholes.

the wrong guys died.

[Not 4 Me]

I guess unlike Jeff and the rest of us, Usquanigo and Alf have no real friends apart from this forum.

Of course, now I've said that, Usquanigo will kick off saying 'tell me about myself and who my friends are, you don't know me' etc. And Alf will tell me to p!ss off or shut up.

Yeah, the men in skirts thing may not catch on in the real world, but even guys like this have a right to express their feelings. As a black guy Jeff is brave to don a skirt and walk around New York without getting shot let alone laughed at. Perhaps they are over-keen and pushing this thing too far and they should go out and carry on with their 'hobby' and leave us out of it.

but shooting them down in flames so quick is a little cruel. It's bad enough Jeff probably gets called a battyman and fag by people when he's out, and seems not to realise it's bad to wear women's clothes on interviews , but in time he should learn. It's obvious looking at his album he wishes to be a woman, but due to lack of funds through unemployment has no resources to fly to Thailand and get the job done (it'll cost him thousands just for that face alone ).

Perhaps KiltyCol is fictional or someone from this SkirtClub or whatever he calls it. Not my cup of tea myself, but if the fashion changes due to global warming or some other freak event (no pun intended) who knows what men will be wearing in a short while from now?

I think this whole thread is hilarious myself... I mean, 38 pages...