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unicat79 wrote:Hi there,
The Martin Lothar King jr. was already here. It was Simone de Beauvoir (french feminist) that quoted: "Equality between men and women is reached, when men wear skirts". So much to the socio-institutional background. In Germany there is the discussion that womens' equity is still not ende up, because first women kept their traditional view on men (how they have to be) and men theirselves have not taken new (further female) freedom e. g. in fashion. Their hyper-masculinity led them into a so called lock-in of holding up stereotypes of manlihood by knowing the fact that traditional masculinity (industrial worker who cares for his wife and the children) is just passé! If You want to know more about these facts then read about the queer-theory and Judith Butler.
Downgrading to fashion it's time for change! Mens fashion is not individual and fitting to a guy who wants to express what he is in real and not only playing gender-roles.
So in my opinion the high-heeled men is a good way to express "his woman in him" which almost every man has. The contrast between masculine and feminine is very interesting and gender stereotypes have to be troubled! They are not fitting in global society any more.
In Germany the women "stand their man". And mow it's time for the men "to stand their woman"! Thats real equity and we all could have advantages in freedom and tolerance therefrom. Think of Richard Florida's three T's. Because of this designers will produce high heels for men in future. They won't let go such an opportunity through their fingers. Be sure!
Koichi Ito wrote:Men wore Skirt and High Heel Shoes in 17th and 18th Century. Why can we done it then why not Today?
Koichi Ito wrote:Since Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen DeGeneres do look good in Men's Clothes and Shoes! If so some Men do look good in Women's Clothes and Shoes! I have seen some Men look beautiful in Dress and High Heel Shoes!
Tljakes wrote:You should perhaps go look closer at those pictures you like to flaunt. As heels in the French court for men where 3" to 4" and looked more feminine than most women shoes today. Not to speak about their makeup and petticoats made of the finest silk......
Koichi Ito wrote:Of course Men do wear high heel shoes too! So Fashion Industries like Christian Louboutin, Casadei SpA., Gucci SpA., Prada SpA., Manolo Blahnink Limited, and Jimmy Choo Limited must make high heel shoes for men too! I believe in equal right about what men and women chooses to wear! If Martin Luther King Jr. is alive Today? He will say that they have to make high heel shoes for men too!
unicat79 wrote:Hi,
When I read for example the posts of "usquanigo" then I feel that I suceeded in troubling gender-role-playing! Like Rui Leonardes does!
I made the experience that many people totally blank out new forms of fashion, when it troubles gender-roles. It is not the first question, that men in former times wore similar fashion. It is the point that many men want to wear it TODAY! And it is their right to do and to express it, so far I understand equity and democracy. If everybody would like it? No idea. Tastes are different. But everybody has to respect it!
As women fought for trousers, men can fight for high heels. Where is the difference in this case? When some people have problems with the picture of high heeled men, well it's just their problem!
Many men get it that these are also facetts of freedom - to wear what You want. Women do it in the same way. Men have the right not be always practically, they have the right for elegance and for beauty - as women have, too!
Usquanico, You are right. Heels come from stirrups, but what men make out of it now - as women do - is just their affair. You won't stop it with vulgar words! It's time to conquer womens' wardrobe for male emancipation!
unicat79 wrote:Hi,
When I read for example the posts of "usquanigo" then I feel that I suceeded in troubling gender-role-playing! Like Rui Leonardes does!
I made the experience that many people totally blank out new forms of fashion, when it troubles gender-roles. It is not the first question, that men in former times wore similar fashion. It is the point that many men want to wear it TODAY! And it is their right to do and to express it, so far I understand equity and democracy. If everybody would like it? No idea. Tastes are different. But everybody has to respect it!
As women fought for trousers, men can fight for high heels. Where is the difference in this case? When some people have problems with the picture of high heeled men, well it's just their problem!
Many men get it that these are also facetts of freedom - to wear what You want. Women do it in the same way. Men have the right not be always practically, they have the right for elegance and for beauty - as women have, too!
Usquanico, You are right. Heels come from stirrups, but what men make out of it now - as women do - is just their affair. You won't stop it with vulgar words! It's time to conquer womens' wardrobe for male emancipation!
Usquanigo wrote:unicat79 wrote:Hi,
When I read for example the posts of "usquanigo" then I feel that I suceeded in troubling gender-role-playing! Like Rui Leonardes does!
I made the experience that many people totally blank out new forms of fashion, when it troubles gender-roles. It is not the first question, that men in former times wore similar fashion. It is the point that many men want to wear it TODAY! And it is their right to do and to express it, so far I understand equity and democracy. If everybody would like it? No idea. Tastes are different. But everybody has to respect it!
As women fought for trousers, men can fight for high heels. Where is the difference in this case? When some people have problems with the picture of high heeled men, well it's just their problem!
Many men get it that these are also facetts of freedom - to wear what You want. Women do it in the same way. Men have the right not be always practically, they have the right for elegance and for beauty - as women have, too!
Usquanico, You are right. Heels come from stirrups, but what men make out of it now - as women do - is just their affair. You won't stop it with vulgar words! It's time to conquer womens' wardrobe for male emancipation!
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You are a real piece of work. How can you possibly type such crap with a straight face? (not that much of you is straight in the first place lol)
Go back, re-read this entire thread, read it slowly, and out loud if you have to. If you don't end up with a different perspecitive on it than you expressed above, ask someone to read and interpret it FOR you, as you appear to have reading comprehension issues.
Koichi Ito wrote:We need a Fashion Reformation or Fashion Civil Right Movement to make fashion for men and women equal. Not long ago long hair on men was unaccepted. Now many men wear long hairs! So same thing with clothes and shoes. Someday it will be okay for men to wear women's clothes and shoes!
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