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Former babysitter wrote:Rob..
What did she say and what did you say when you ejaculated? Do you think that was the first time she saw that happen? Did she ever bathe you again? Did you ever talk to her about it outside of the babysitting circumstances? I must admit that I have been fascinated by these things ever since I was a teenager.
Former babysitter wrote:Not at all. Your cousin made you feel good. Of course you're going to get excited thinking about it. I used to get excited thinking about the erections I caused even though I didn't do it on purpose. Have you ever discussed these things with her at social gatherings etc? does she ever think about what those baths?
Rob...G wrote:Michelle R.
So did you never go swiming naked with them?What are the ages of the children? Thank you for your response on the ocation when I was 12 and had an orgasm.I had a babysitter that stripped once to make me more relaxed and no sooner does she get in the tub with me and start washing me, I have an orgasm.The slightest touch would do it.[/b]
male observer wrote:kimmy, the complaints aren't about the babysitter, they're about boys who in many cases aren't allowed any privacy and unnecessarily have to be naked in front of girls. read the post about the 12 year old boy who along with 5 other boys had to strip naked in front of his older sister
Michelle R. wrote:MSH - I think what happened to you was wrong because it sounds like you bathed yourself by this age (you said your mom hadn't seen you naked for a couple years, which implies she was satisfied that you could clean yourself). Therefore, your privacy was indeed violated by this, and compounded by letting your sister see you all of a sudden when she didn't before. Your aunt should have figured out another arrangement.
I agree that some posters or articles have a bias that girls should get privacy and boys shouldn't. My view is that it is case by case, and while I think the "evidence" (what I've read at least) suggests that girls on average mature faster, one shouldn't apply that generalization to all boys. I think it's reasonable that some boys either still need help or don't mind being seen at that age (because I have personal experience to that effect), but I also know boys who are capable at a younger age. The same it true with girls. Each child will desire (and earn) privacy at different times, but from that time it needs to be respected.
Also, I worry more about children being bathed/seen naked by someone of the opposite sex than by parents or babysitters. Parents - nothing they haven't seen before. Babysitter - assuming reasonable age difference, they are being hired by the parents based on experience and trust character to handle the situation appropriately. But siblings should only be involved (in my opinion) if they have since the child was very young. In other words, they are just continuing a role that the younger sibling has become used to. To all of a sudden be exposed naked to a sibling (like you were) sounds very humiliating, and I could easily see her teasing you or you just feeling uncomfortable in the future because she got to take a peak at something she otherwise wasn't allowed to.
MSH wrote:As a 12 year old boy, my older sister, younger brother and I spent a summer at my aunt's farm. She had 4 boys; my twin cousins Kenny and Karl were my age and 2 younger boys. My aunt informed us that she had neither the time nor hot water for individual baths and that every night she showered her 4 boys locker room style with a garden hose. My brother and I would be showered with them. I was rather unsure what all this meant. I was led into a utility room with everyone. I was extremely uncomfortable as I had to strip naked with the other boys in front of my aunt, who then proceeded to spray us with water, gave us soap and shampoo, instructed us to wash our hair, etc. Even my mom hadn't seen me naked for probably 2-3 years at that point.
After a couple of nights, she told us that my sister Donna would assist her by helping with the two youngest boys. It was extremely embarrassing for me (and the other older boys) to take our clothes off and be naked in front of my sister. None of us boys had any pubic hair yet. We all had erections at various times throughout these showers. As a 12 year old boy, it was totally humiliating to have my erect penis pointing straight at my older sister.
There seems to be a philosophy among many women that pre-pubescent boys are not allowed any privacy.
ben12380 wrote:Michelle R, you're a sexist pig saying, "girls should get privacy and boys should not." The fact may be that girls on average usually mature faster than boys but that's besides the point. Regardless of how well or poorly boys wash, their privacy should be respected just as much as girls privacy. I think you ought to get a grip on life and put yourself in someone else's shoes and think about how you would feel in that case. There might be some boys who would rather stay dirty than let a girl give them a bath. From what you said, you obviously don't understand the phrase, "treat others as you would like to be treated."
. wrote:OH and another thing...
all this stuff about how it's education and females get to learn about the male anatomy?
So 14/15 year old boys should bathe 8-10 year old girls (including washing the genitals) so they can learn about female anatomy. (NOTE: I am not saying I believe this is true, I am just showing how ridiculous the argument is!)
. wrote:Woah now
Are you really comparing a child wanting candy for dinner to a 10 year old not wanting a sitter to BATHE him for a night?
Unless he is REALLY ULTRA DIRTY, it can mostly wait a night until his parents get back. He won't die.
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