PC debate on this forum! Rape law in pakistain!

[ahlam_khan_1980]

Please do not censor this! By limiting debate you are just brush important issues under the carpet!

WHY ARE WE NOT DOING MORE ABOUT THIS? Women in the west need to be more active! Rosa parks fought for african americans in the USA! Mrs Khan in Leeds needs to acts for her sisters in Peshwar!


Check out this report by the BBC:

Pakistain's hudood laws are a tool in the hands of men - with these laws they can rape women and be totally unaccountable. Under Hudood if a woman makes a rape allegation she must provide four pious male witnesses or face a charge of adultery herself.

So a woman is in the ridiculous position of having to produce four Muslim adult male eyewitnesses, men who just stood there and watched. If sex by force is not proved, this woman can be charged with "zina" - sex outside of marriage. About 60% of women in pakistani jails have been imprisoned as a result of Hudood laws.


The Hudood laws are a part of Islamic crime law: more can be found here:

[stan]

Islamic laws seem to be thoroughly evil. Having lived for some time in an Islamic country, I shall be quite happy to spend the rest of my life in non-Muslim areas.

It is such a pity that my home town, Bradford, has been handed to those people.

Where I live now in Central London, I have to walk past two mosques on my way to work.

Enough is enough.

[MM6]

MUSSARAT SHEFI, WOMEN'S CRISIS CENTRE, KOHAT, NWFP
"Sexual abuse and rape is not the prevalent problem in this province.

In our crisis centre we deal with problems such as domestic violence, physical torture, harassment, illegal confinement, murder and elopements.

Poverty is a big issue and this is what prompts violence against women.

In 2002 we only handled one case of zina. But within the last eight months there were two honour killings here.

The main problem is that society is very conservative and extremely religious. Women are socially oppressed and cases of zina cannot be exposed because of social pressure. "

SADIA SUHAIL, OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR, KARACHI
"It is not that rape is a particular problem for Pakistan, but that this country outlaws extra-marital sex for women
These women are totally illiterate, hardly aware of their rights, they don't know about zina laws and know nothing of the problems that exist for women in Pakistan.
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ROBINA NAWAB, MARKETING OFFICER, RAWALPINDI

"I work for a radio project called "Hear My Voice".

We have covered rape victims, bonded labour, mine workers, drug issues and focus on subjects relevant to women and children. We go to rural villages and meet women in far-flung places to talk about their lives and hardships.

Having been exposed to the huge variety of problems across Pakistan, I can say that there is too much coverage of rape.

Such problems exist elsewhere in the world and I fear that the international community has the wrong image of women in Pakistan.""


The Hudood laws need to be repealed but as you can see from these quotes, poverty and education need to be addressed before woman in Pakistan can achieve equality and freedom.

[thebigone]

Islamic laws seem to be thoroughly evil. Having lived for some time in an Islamic country, I shall be quite happy to spend the rest of my life in non-Muslim areas.

It is such a pity that my home town, Bradford, has been handed to those people.

Where I live now in Central London, I have to walk past two mosques on my way to work.

Enough is enough.

I agree, I left a majority Muslim area of England to get away from their attitudes. British law comes before any religious law and the sooner they understand that the better.

[elliott20]

I personally am of the school of thought that laws should not be based on moral judgement, at least not on a nationwide level. Obviously, laws need to reflect the moral guidings of the particular people. But then when there is a divisive enough political stances on the general consensus of morals, like say in the US, imposing a law based on one single side's moral dictations is an essential tyranny of the masses. Of course, you have to draw the line somewhere. Not every law should be subject to change if there were only 5 people who want it changed.

[stan]

I personally am of the school of thought that laws should not be based on moral judgement, at least not on a nationwide level. Obviously, laws need to reflect the moral guidings of the particular people. But then when there is a divisive enough political stances on the general consensus of morals, like say in the US, imposing a law based on one single side's moral dictations is an essential tyranny of the masses. Of course, you have to draw the line somewhere. Not every law should be subject to change if there were only 5 people who want it changed.

After what you said on another thread, I came to the conclusion that you were incapable of lying nor of telling the truth nor of knowing the difference and that you wander about in the space inside your own head.

I am glad you concur, Sir.