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Postby Guest » Mon May 08, 2006 10:42 pm

Manuals ARE more fun- and if you drive for fun you probably do want a manual- I thought- BUT then my wife got a back problem and having an auto really halped as it was the clutch pedal side that was the problem.

Since then we have had 4 autos: the first two a volvo740 and a Citroen ZX were very uninspiring, but since then we have had a Fiat Marea & Volvo 940 turbodiesel (which looked very much like the other Volvo) and they are much more inspiring.

the thing that struck me was how much easier autos are , and with the right engine combination they are prob quicker as there is no need to take foot off gas? - also servicing costs? well you may spend more on ATF oil but this will be offset by never having to replace a clutch?
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Postby Moto Head » Thu May 18, 2006 3:22 pm

It was once very true that manuals were the gear box of choice for the serious driver. Automatics took the driver control away, stole power from the engine reduced cornering stability (they’d race up the gears instead of down when you decelerated for a corner) etc etc.

But there is a new breed of Autos that can reliably outperform the decisions that all but the best manual driver might make in terms of gear selection and speed and will take very minimal power from the engine. One example, though not the only one, is the ZF Auto box used in the Range Rover, Austin Martin Vanquish and the big BMWs will make decisions that recognsise corners, driver style, deceleration etc and will select gears appropriately. As for cost, these are coming down rapidly. Ford actually put this gear box into some models of its Australian produced Falcon sedan – a car that sells for the equivalent the equivalent of 18000 English pounds.

With these choices now available, the main reason why you’d buy a manual is simple because they leave the decisions, and therefore the fun, fully in your hands.
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Postby stavpal » Thu May 18, 2006 7:36 pm

I prefer manual

Have tried an automatic, didn't like it. I mean with the manual I feel that I have the control
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Postby Moto Head » Fri May 19, 2006 1:27 am

Have tried an automatic, didn't like it. I mean with the manual I feel that I have the control


Yes... same here
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Postby SamUK » Tue May 23, 2006 10:09 pm

I love automatics!

I have driven plenty of manuals before. I much prefer automatic and I dont think im ever going to buy a manual again. I dont feel any less in control. My car is tiptronic anyway so I can always use the manual mode, but to be honest 95% of the time its in auto.

In any kind of town driving or any narrow roads your constantly stopping and starting, its great not having to bother with the clutch and gears. On the motorway theres little differnce between manual and auto. Kickdown makes overtaking/quick acceleration easy.

I suppose its personal preference at the end of the day. All I can say is try both and see which you prefer.
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Postby curlypaul » Wed May 24, 2006 10:51 am

Personally I will always choose a manual no questions. My wife drives an auto and while it is nice and lazy in traffic and so on, annoys me to death because it changes gear at all sorts of stupid times and the kick down is all wrong.

I know you have to adjust your driving style to drive an auto but frankly I don't want to have sit there thinking about how I can fool it into changing into the gear that I want it in - I just want to simply put it in the gear that that I want it in
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Postby minigirl » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:26 pm

i've always driven manuals - i'd much rather be doing things with my fingers than having everything done for me by a machine.................
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Postby K-Babe » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:26 am

The reason you find alot more manuals in the UK than in the US is people have smaller cars here in general. Over in America they have big 4 door sedans with 6 litre V8's which chug up and down route 66. Luxury cars. Americans like comfort and space in a car, so the type of car that is, is usually automatic.

Over here, common cars like Fiesta's and Corsa's etc are small cars, and made to be affordable, and an automatic gearbox is a very expensive piece of kit so manufacturers wont make many of them.

Also, autobox in a small car usually gives it a top speed of about....9

Trust me i drove a 1.1 Ford Fiesta Auto a few years ago and it was the most sluggish and clunky thing ive ever seen, the manual ones are alot better.

Also, in the UK we've got skyrocketing fuel prices and manuals are more fuel effeciant. Another problem the Americans dont really have with their dirt cheap fuel.
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Re: Automatic Transmissions

Postby franfran » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:45 am

I've driven automatics from time to time, but I've never owned one, and I have no inclination to do so. All my cars have been manuals.

It depends on the sort of driving you do and the sort of driver you are. What's right for one person may not be right for someone else. Each to their own.
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Re: Automatic Transmissions

Postby spikeheelhoney » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:43 pm

I used to drive manuals all the time but over the last 10 years I've had serious back problems which give me really bad sciatic pain in my left leg - so now I drive automatics. One chap in a garage once told me "at least you can't spin your wheels or get stuck in an automatic".

What a fibber...I've got my automatic BMW stuck in the mud at Outdoor Shows a number of times!
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Postby Beewalker » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:54 am

retan wrote:....................................
Manuals +'s:

Better gas mileage.
Faster acceleration.
More control. :? < Garbage : there is no difference...
Cheaper price.
Less break wear (if you down shift). :roll: < More Rubbish.. p.s. sp. "brake"
Easier to fix a worn out clutch than a worn out auto. tran.
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Re: Automatic Transmissions

Postby Guest » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:07 pm

there is one kind of "automatic" that I do like, engine drives an alternator that supplies power to electric motors that drive the wheels, no gears to worry about. Trouble is that these vehicles run on rails and tend to weigh about 125 tonnes!
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Re: Automatic Transmissions

Postby GSU » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:16 pm

i have driven manuals but mostly autos, my wrx auto has sportsshift, i like that alot.
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Re: Automatic Transmissions

Postby M2010 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:15 pm

I like autos - needs a big engine though - at least 6 cylinders
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Re: Automatic Transmissions

Postby M2010 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:59 am

6s are smoother though, and sound nicer
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