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He seems to regard getting me into skirts as a matter of principal. He says trousers are unfeminine and that wearing a skirt or a dress encourages a girl to be feminine. He says that how we dress helps to define our distinct roles as men and women. So I don’t think he’ll allow me to wear trousers, even at weekends, any time soon.
[/i]Guest wrote:Mixed_up_Miss wrote:Guest wrote:Hi thanks,
[i]As a trousers-girl until now this advice is so, so useful! I already bought myself a couple of cheap A-line skirts, but I definitely need some more comfortable, practical full skirts for housework etc. Not the sort of thing that interests my boyfriend – you are quite right – but I will insist that he buys me some! I don’t have any slips but they do sound a good idea for all the reasons you mention plus winter warmth! Which do you think are better, full slips or waist slips?
I usually wear a full slip under a dress and a half slip under a skirt. M & S have some realy nice simple plain ones. The important thing is to get the length right so that in your mother's (or grandmother's) words "make sure your slip doesn't show". My husband only really likes me to wear very simple and plain white underwear and I don't like to show the outline of my bra under a top so camisole tops are really useful and you can get some nice ones to match a half slip.
If your boyfriend is anything like my other half he may not show particular interest in your everyday clothes but he will be really pleased and impressed that you are thinking about how to dress in a feminine way even for the housework ! Most women wear a skirt when they dress up, but revert to jeans to walk the dog, that's what he doesn't want you to have to do.
I’m starting to realise that my underwear requirements are now more complicated that basic bra and <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/' target='_blank'>knickers</A></A>. But thanks, it’s REALLY useful advice – I’ll add some full slips and half slips to the top of my shopping list!
Can I ask you another question please? What in your opinion are the most practical and comfortable kind of <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>nylon</A></A> / hosiery for all day everyday wear?
Mixed_up_Miss wrote:I’m starting to realise the scale of this makeover – all I’ll be keeping are some bras and blouses, but as someone said, men are only interested in the ‘pretty’ clothes. The day-to-day clothes I’ll need don’t interest him nearly as much, so long as they are skirts! We had a big discussion over the weekend and I laid down my minimum requirements for going skirts-only. I could see his face falling but he has agreed to give me a credit card (he won’t come shopping with me for all this). I’ll take some time off to shop and if all goes according to plan we’ll get rid of all my trousers next weekend. If I’ve forgotten anything vital, please let me know. I’m really grateful for advice from ladies who’ve had a similar experience.
I currently have 2 skirts that are suitable for housework etc. I want 2 more full skirts plus 2 or 3 aprons.
I’m completely bereft of casual skirts and dresses. I need at least 3 or 4 straightaway. Apart from a fuller denim skirt I’m not even sure what I want. Any suggestions?
I currently have 2 suits for work. I need at least 2 plain grey skirts and about half a dozen plain white blouses.
I’ll need a couple of sports skirts or dresses for badminton and the gym.
I need a minimum of 2 or 3 more nighties.
I only have the one girdle. If he expects me to wear them at weekends etc, then I’ll need at least 2 more (+ <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A>).
I need full slips and half slips, plain white underwear and lots more <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A>.
Very soon I’ll have to think about formal dresses for Christmas parties, and the business and client dos he expects me to attend, together with all the shoes, accessories etc. He wants us to have a very traditional relationship but he’s finding out that traditional femininity doesn’t come cheap!
Mixed_up_Miss wrote:Can I ask, does your boyfriend choose what you wear when you go out or can you wear what you like. Pitty you can't wear a pair of jeans of the weekend. I do find wearing a skirt, <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A>, etc takes sooo much longer than a pair of jeans.
Currently he tells me what to wear when he takes me out. In the future I want to make these decisions, although I’ll continue to ask his opinion.
I’ve always been ultra casual about my appearance and I’m starting to realise how much more complicated my life is getting. I’m exchanging comfy jeans and trainers for tight or voluminous skirts, slips, girdles, garters, <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A> and high heals. I’ll have to shave my legs more often (groan). I guess I’ll have to pay more attentions to my hair, make up, shoes and accessories. Wish you hadn’t reminded me…
Wearing jeans at the weekend would give me a break but he won’t stand it it. It is when we spend whole days together so I guess I understand his attitude, and if wear dresses and skirts all the time I’ll get used to them quicker – that’s what he says anyway.
Why do you think your bf makes you wear hoisery. Weird this, but I found a lot men like their women in <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> or <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A>. They don't have to wear them! Do you wear opaques or patterned <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A>?
I agree 100% that if men had to shrink-wrap their own legs in stretchy <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>nylon</A> they’d lose interest in <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> and <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A> PDQ! I think his attitude is a bit muddled. He says that hosiery shows off my legs to their best advantage but also that bare legs are “a little bit unladylike” (his words). He definitely doesn’t like me showing too much flesh in public so I think it’s basically a modesty issue.
As soon as I mentioned slips, he said I should start wearing them ASAP. I can see that they are pretty much essential with thin, white or floaty skirts.
Currently I’ve got the traditional seamed <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A> he bought me plus some basic supermarket <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> – nothing opaque or patterned. What I now need are <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> / <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A> that match my skirts and shoes.
What type of skirts do you wear for the weekend. I like just casual denim skirts, more comfy at least. Hey, just read back that you now wear skirts to work. Hope this working out okay. Keep warm!
I have a denim skirt he bought me, but it is too narrow to be relaxed or comfortable, and couple of basic A-line skirts I bought when I was visiting my Mum. Wearing a skirt to work is OK but all I have at the moment are 2 suits – one dark grey and one navy blue.
Mixed_up_Miss wrote:Thank you for the latest set of replies. There was a lot of common ground so I hope non one will be offended by a common reply.
For everyday wear in the home, evenings and weekends I’m going for fuller, more comfortable skirts and dresses, slips and thicker <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A>. He likes to see me in thinner <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>nylon</A> so the <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> may be a problem.
The nightdresses he gave me are very frilly and girly. He likes me to wear plain white underwear so I don’t think he’ll object to some simpler and longer white nighties.
He will definitely object if I show too much skin in public. I think that a sports skirt over opaque white lycra <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> might be best for the gym.
It must feel very strange going from your typical tomboy clothes of jeans, socks, trainers etc to skirts, <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A> & slips but I'm sure you'll be fine once you get used to it.
I know that looking and feeling more feminine can’t do me any harm, but it is quite a challenge for a died-in-the-wool tomboy to adapt to dresses, skirts, slips and <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A> almost overnight. When I’m actually with my boyfriend wearing a dress or a skirt is OK. I know they are perfectly normal girl’s clothes but I can still find them quite constraining and objectionable when he isn’t around. Just as you say though, I’m sure I’ll get used to it. At work today I was very aware of my skirt, but I tried telling myself that it shows I’m a girlfriend and I started feeling better!
One very good thing about making a clean break and (as has been suggested) “burning” your trousers, is that it will help you to move, walk and above all sit in a more feminine way. Which in turn makes you behave more as a lady, which is what he wants. This combined with your new domestic role will reinforce your separate ‘male female’ relationship.
Now I’m in skirts I have to become much more meticulous about shaving my legs, sittings with my knees together etc. Tight skirts and high heals will improve my posture and my walk. I need to regard all this as positive. I’m no domestic goddess so I’ll have to improve my housework skills, but once I’m looking after him in the home, doing all the cooking and washing and ironing and cleaning, I’ll be making a real contribution.
Louise Jones5 wrote:Mixed_up_Miss wrote:Thank you for the latest set of replies. There was a lot of common ground so I hope non one will be offended by a common reply.
For everyday wear in the home, evenings and weekends I’m going for fuller, more comfortable skirts and dresses, slips and thicker <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A></A>. He likes to see me in thinner <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>nylon</A></A> so the <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A></A> may be a problem.
The nightdresses he gave me are very frilly and girly. He likes me to wear plain white underwear so I don’t think he’ll object to some simpler and longer white nighties.
He will definitely object if I show too much skin in public. I think that a sports skirt over opaque white lycra <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A></A> might be best for the gym.
It must feel very strange going from your typical tomboy clothes of jeans, socks, trainers etc to skirts, <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A></A> & slips but I'm sure you'll be fine once you get used to it.
I know that looking and feeling more feminine can’t do me any harm, but it is quite a challenge for a died-in-the-wool tomboy to adapt to dresses, skirts, slips and <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'><A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A></A> almost overnight. When I’m actually with my boyfriend wearing a dress or a skirt is OK. I know they are perfectly normal girl’s clothes but I can still find them quite constraining and objectionable when he isn’t around. Just as you say though, I’m sure I’ll get used to it. At work today I was very aware of my skirt, but I tried telling myself that it shows I’m a girlfriend and I started feeling better!
One very good thing about making a clean break and (as has been suggested) “burning” your trousers, is that it will help you to move, walk and above all sit in a more feminine way. Which in turn makes you behave more as a lady, which is what he wants. This combined with your new domestic role will reinforce your separate ‘male female’ relationship.
Now I’m in skirts I have to become much more meticulous about shaving my legs, sittings with my knees together etc. Tight skirts and high heals will improve my posture and my walk. I need to regard all this as positive. I’m no domestic goddess so I’ll have to improve my housework skills, but once I’m looking after him in the home, doing all the cooking and washing and ironing and cleaning, I’ll be making a real contribution.
If your boyfriend didn't like you wearing something you chose, like for example you mentioned he preferes thinner hoisery would he make you wear thinner <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> or <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>stockings</A>. I have just read this discussion and found it to be very informative.
Regarding gym wear has he suggested you wear white lyrca leggings or told you that is what you must wear because of modesty.
How do you feel about the frilly nightdress. As this is nightwear I suppose its not too bad.
Getting into housework - how does this connect with things. Was this his suggestion that your contribution should be through domestic chores like cooking and cleaning.
From one tomboy to another I have got some very good advice. My (rather new boyfriend, dating for 4 months) wants me to wear a dress or skirt more often and has also said I should do some cleaning around the house whilst he does more manly jobs like tree cutting. I have never worn an apron since school cooking class but for this weekend I will give it a go and agree to wear what he chooses and also be the houswife he so badly wants. I have yet to find out what he wants me to wear though...
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