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Postby cr on Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:44 pm

If you are willing to commit to a routine then you will see improvement. Our bodies are so different that what works for one person will not always work for the next person. If you are deeply committed to improving, and even possibly removing your marks, then you must commit to a consistent routine for at least 1 year. The course of action of abrasion, such as dry skin brushing or using microdermabrasion cloths in the shower, and peels (beginning with very weak GA peels) is what is suppose to work at removing the scar tissue. Also, as a side-note, dermarollers are also believed to help break down scar tissue, but is a controversial method and not always necessary. Then you need a method to help stimulate new collagen formation, which is where copper-peptides help, or massaging nourishing oils into your skin post peels and abrasion(oils such as emu, vit. e or olive oil, or MSM cream). In addition to all of this, you must nourish your body from the inside with multi-vitamins, MSM supplements, iron, vitamin C, and a healthy lifestyle and eating habits. If you are willing to devote a little bit of time pratically every day then you will see major improvement in your marks and probably elimination, but it takes time and perserverence. You have to make up your mind if you are going to find a solution or not. If you decide that you do want to find a solution then through experimentation seek out the solution that your body best responds to, which may not be included in this reply. Then you must consistently do it. It is up to you. People will always say it does work and it does not work because our bodies are so different. It is up to you to find if it does, in fact, work for you. All the best! CR

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Postby Guest on Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:01 pm

just been reading back over some early pages of the forum (around late 200s) and all of them seemed to be doing a routine involving TCA of a much much higher percentage, some even used 100%. a 30-50% peel was considered light-mild.

just feeling a bit lost at the moment and short on ideas.

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Postby Guest on Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:33 pm

http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=49690

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:07 am

. wrote:http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=49690


This person is nuts putting 50% TCA on their skin first time out. This person also claimed to see results after she was almost completely heeled which was only 10 days after doing her first peel. It takes several weeks for the skin to completely heel before the skin normalizes to see what the real result is. At only 10 days out especially after using 50% TCA, her skin was likely not completey heeled and still had some inflamation.

Here is what we know:

- The experts (or those who claim to be expert) all say the scar tissue can't be removed but that peels can make stretchmarks less noticeable.

- Many people on this forum have been doing peels in one form or another for at least a year (some more; some less) and no one has had total success but many have seen improvement. The few people who have blown through here and said that peels do work have not said that it has actually worked completely for them (atleast I don't remember them saying it actually worked completely for them).

Doesn't seem that hard to figure out the answer to the question of whether peels totally remove stretchmarks.

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Postby cr on Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:05 am

I have only been doing an extremely diluted TCA peel for 2 months and have seen more improvement in my stretch marks than the 5 or so months of GA peels. TCA peels (no greater than 25%) is considered a medium peel and is able to work deeper than the GA peel, which is categorized as a light peel. Those on this forum who have been doing peels for a year, I believe, have been doing GA peels for the most part. I do not think that there is anybody on this forum right now, or lately, who has been doing TCA peels for a year. If I have mistaken then the person who has would you please reply? There is a big difference between GA peels and TCA peels. I think that there is a possibility that GA peels can remove stretch marks, but I think that it would take twice as long if it could. I am interested to hear from anybody on this forum who has been doing TCA religiously for a year in order to learn what their results were. I am a believer in TCA combined with other methods. All I can do is report to all of you what I achieve with my different methods. So far, I have not totally removed my marks, but the indented ones are filling in, they are also getting smaller and what use to be long stretch mark have divided into two much smaller and finer lines. The only way to really describe it is that they look like they are shriveling up. I know, it sounds weird, but that is the only way to describe the process. My stretch marks look 50% better in the most resistant areas of my body, and 70% better in the least resistant areas. Despite totally getting rid of them or not, I am so pleased with the results not only physically, but also how much better I feel mentally and emotionally regarding these marks, that I will continue for as long as I have to. I am not saying TCA is the magical formula, some people have claimed to remove their marks with very simple home remedies. All I believe is that if you truly want to improve your marks, your skin, your body, your outlook on your stretch marks than a consistent routine (whatever that may be) that you are devoted to will surely reap many rewards. CR

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:23 am

cr wrote:I have only been doing an extremely diluted TCA peel for 2 months and have seen more improvement in my stretch marks than the 5 or so months of GA peels. TCA peels (no greater than 25%) is considered a medium peel and is able to work deeper than the GA peel, which is categorized as a light peel. Those on this forum who have been doing peels for a year, I believe, have been doing GA peels for the most part. I do not think that there is anybody on this forum right now, or lately, who has been doing TCA peels for a year. If I have mistaken then the person who has would you please reply? There is a big difference between GA peels and TCA peels. I think that there is a possibility that GA peels can remove stretch marks, but I think that it would take twice as long if it could. I am interested to hear from anybody on this forum who has been doing TCA religiously for a year in order to learn what their results were. I am a believer in TCA combined with other methods. All I can do is report to all of you what I achieve with my different methods. So far, I have not totally removed my marks, but the indented ones are filling in, they are also getting smaller and what use to be long stretch mark have divided into two much smaller and finer lines. The only way to really describe it is that they look like they are shriveling up. I know, it sounds weird, but that is the only way to describe the process. My stretch marks look 50% better in the most resistant areas of my body, and 70% better in the least resistant areas. Despite totally getting rid of them or not, I am so pleased with the results not only physically, but also how much better I feel mentally and emotionally regarding these marks, that I will continue for as long as I have to. I am not saying TCA is the magical formula, some people have claimed to remove their marks with very simple home remedies. All I believe is that if you truly want to improve your marks, your skin, your body, your outlook on your stretch marks than a consistent routine (whatever that may be) that you are devoted to will surely reap many rewards. CR


I have just started out with tca and I can already say it is more effective that GA, because as she said, it is a deeper peel.

I too do not remember anyone consistently using tca for a long period (6 months to 1 year). GA is simply too slow, I have done GA peels for a long long time and though it has improved the marks, and some marks have gone, I think the marks that disappeared must have been new marks not old ones. I have so many stretch marks its hard for me to know how old all of them are.

I really find it hard to believe that if I do tca for 6 months I will not be rid of my marks. I may be being too optimistic, but I can see real differences on my bum, and have just done my second peel there. I think it will take 5 or 6 to completely remove the marks though.

Anyone trying it should stick to the lower percentages though (15 or 20% maybe 25% if they are really brave). This stuff is extremely dangerous and risking anything stronger just to get faster results is just not worth it.

J

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:21 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=49690


This person is nuts putting 50% TCA on their skin first time out. This person also claimed to see results after she was almost completely heeled which was only 10 days after doing her first peel. It takes several weeks for the skin to completely heel before the skin normalizes to see what the real result is. At only 10 days out especially after using 50% TCA, her skin was likely not completey heeled and still had some inflamation.

Here is what we know:

- The experts (or those who claim to be expert) all say the scar tissue can't be removed but that peels can make stretchmarks less noticeable.

- Many people on this forum have been doing peels in one form or another for at least a year (some more; some less) and no one has had total success but many have seen improvement. The few people who have blown through here and said that peels do work have not said that it has actually worked completely for them (atleast I don't remember them saying it actually worked completely for them).

Doesn't seem that hard to figure out the answer to the question of whether peels totally remove stretchmarks.


There are experts who say that scar tissue can be removed too, and since I have removed some marks I am convinced that they can be removed. Lets stay positive, surely the goal is to get rid of our marks rather than lament about how nothing can be done to remove them. This board gives a lot of hope to a lot of people, and it is better to live in hope than die in despair.

J

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:47 pm

cr wrote:I have only been doing an extremely diluted TCA peel for 2 months and have seen more improvement in my stretch marks than the 5 or so months of GA peels. cr


hi J and cr you've been a great help. everyone i hear or read about who has used TCA has only good things to say about it and the vast majority i read about only use TCA once, ive never heard of anyone has has done it more than twice and their results (and i quote) were "amazing".

ive just got a quick question for cr. you say you've been doing the TCA peels for 2 months now, how many times exactly have you done the peel itself in those 2 months?

thanks very much everyone

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Postby cr on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:50 pm

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ive just got a quick question for cr. you say you've been doing the TCA peels for 2 months now, how many times exactly have you done the peel itself in those 2 months?


Hi,
I have a slightly different method with my TCA applications than what is usually done. Normally, TCA is applied once every 4-6 weeks. After application the skin is hydrated and nourished with creams or copper-peptides, but besides that the skin is left alone until the peeling/flaking process has completed and new skin has reached the surface. What I do is apply extremely diluted 20% TCA about 4-5 times a week (I leave it on), and lately, I have been layering on cp's just after application. I dilute the TCA so much that I do not even feel anything and it just makes my skin flake off moderately. I am doing it this way for now because I like to use abrasion on a daily basis just prior to the diluted TCA application. The form of abrasion that I use is usually dry skin brushing, and at times the Jean Wu method. If I were to do a pure TCA application, I would not be able to abrade my skin at all during the peeling process. For now, I simply like this method, but I do not think that it is any more effective than just doing a pure 10-20% TCA application. I just like to mix it up and, eventually, I will probably switch to simply doing a 20% TCA process once a month. All the best!! CR

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:19 pm

thanks alot cr your a great help

:D

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 pm

. wrote:im confused. i was feeling so positive and excited after reading the past few pages on peels now i have no idea. one says they work, another says they dont. i was really keen on doing the TCA routine but now im not so sure. i dont want to put myself through all this if it isnt going to help significantly.

can anyone clear things up a little pls?


Yes, TCA if done in a routine with some form of abrasion will give you better & quicker results.

If you can't afford an abrasive method such as Macro-Abrasion, Micro-Dermabrasion etc, then you still have other options. You can use sandpaper/foot file etc but personally wouldn't recommend it. Instead use Glycolic acid. Use it for a good few weeks before doing the TCA. Which will allow you to strip away & loosen up the old skin. So that when you do the TCA, it'll go in deeper. Giving you a better result. After the peel. Take VERY GOOD care of the skin for 3 weeks. Then if your skin is fine by this point. Start on the Glycolic for another couple of weeks before you do your next TCA application etc. If your a slow healer & skin is still a little bit red, then give it an extra week or so before re-starting Glycolic.

TCA can remove SM's, but depending on how bad/deep they are, it's gonna take a number of applications, meaning a good few months of constant healing. But in the end, all the hard work will obviously have been worth it!

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Postby Guest on Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:49 am

. wrote:
. wrote:Yes, TCA if done in a routine with some form of abrasion will give you better & quicker results.

If you can't afford an abrasive method such as Macro-Abrasion, Micro-Dermabrasion etc, then you still have other options. You can use sandpaper/foot file etc but personally wouldn't recommend it. Instead use Glycolic acid. Use it for a good few weeks before doing the TCA. Which will allow you to strip away & loosen up the old skin. So that when you do the TCA, it'll go in deeper. Giving you a better result. After the peel. Take VERY GOOD care of the skin for 3 weeks. Then if your skin is fine by this point. Start on the Glycolic for another couple of weeks before you do your next TCA application etc. If your a slow healer & skin is still a little bit red, then give it an extra week or so before re-starting Glycolic.

TCA can remove SM's, but depending on how bad/deep they are, it's gonna take a number of applications, meaning a good few months of constant healing. But in the end, all the hard work will obviously have been worth it!


How long did it take for you to completely remove your stretchmarks through this method.

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:57 pm

Hey J,
How often do you apply your TCA peel? Do you leave it on overnight like you did the GA peel? And do you dilute it at all?

Thanks
Shoo

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:42 pm

. wrote:Hey J,
How often do you apply your TCA peel? Do you leave it on overnight like you did the GA peel? And do you dilute it at all?

Thanks
Shoo


I am trying it on my bum every two weeks, but to be honest it should be every 3 or 4 weeks. I wash it off after 8 minutes (which is recommended) and no I do not dilute it. To be honest TCA is quite hard to use mentally. I think a lot of people stop using it because watching the peeling process is quite disturbing in a way and your skin looks akin to elephant hide at some points. However, the peel is certainly more effective on stretch marks that GA, but I guess we already knew that. The only reason I stuck with GA so long is I was scared of the hyperpigmentation I might get with TCA, but then I remembered that I got it with GA when I was using a strong solution so thought what the heck. Hyperpigmentation seems to clear up on me over a couple of months anyway, and to be honest given the choice I would rather live with that than stretch marks if it did not clear up.

J

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