Stretch Marks!!

[Guest]

christ guys this is depressing,

seems like we've exhausted every single method there is possible and still no results

i was really holding out for TCA but now im not sure

everyones so depressed round here at the moment and its damn contagious im so fed up

[americangirl]

I for one am not giving up on these things. I still believe that by working out, eating right (not necessarily raw), taking supplements, and doing peels I will be able to improve the marks that I have. I feel like there as a "negative" undertone on the board now because so many people make unnecessary comments that criticize certain techniques people are using. I just feel like if you do not agree with various methods of removal--just move along.

As for the person who go 8 professional peels and saw no results--do you happen to know what acid you had peels with? Also, what percentage? How far apart were your treatments? Were your marks old, new, red, white? These are all things can have an effect on your results. And there is also the possibility that peels just don't work for you. Some people have had very nice results with TCA peels--maybe not complete removal but definitely improvement, which to me is still a great achievement.

Also, less and less people are ADDING to the boards, its more of people coming here asking what can they do and leaving it to the other board members to experiment.

ON another note:
Has anyone ordered peels from "MakeupArtistsChoice.com"? I have and received my shipment today (30% Glycolic) ....the "peel" takes a long time to dry into my skin even though I washed it beforehand and used the pH prep solution to take away the oils from my skin. This makes it difficult to apply the CPs and Emu Oil right after as outlined on page 410 because its just a mess of blue goop. Is this normal? Also, I experienced no stinging, irritation or anything && its my first time dealing with peels. Was I sold an unsatisfactory product?

[Guest]

The failure of some people on this board to realize the difference between optimism and stupidity is astounding. I had 8 professional peels done. Nada.

STUCK ON STUPID!

[Guest]

I just feel like if you do not agree with various methods of removal--just move along.

You will have to put up with both sides. This board is not just for those that believe one way and ignore reality.

[americangirl]

americangirl wrote:
I just feel like if you do not agree with various methods of removal--just move along.


You will have to put up with both sides. This board is not just for those that believe one way and ignore reality.

Okay. Well I hope you enjoy being negative--why don't you just keep it to yourself though? I am not going to comment on your negative remarks.

[Guest]

is acell dead as a stretch mark remover?

[Kojiro]

I saw this on another site and thought id post it....

You can't peel away stretch marks! Why would anyone have a tummy tuck when they can just buy a bottle of miracle acid that removes stretch marks? BECAUSE you can't burn off a stretchmark, thats why. Stretch marks are comprised of skin that is deficient. It has sustained an injury that did not cause a wound but it left the skin void of glands that secrete dna. So why would anyone want to burn this skin if it is in disrepair? The secret to getting rid of stretchmarks is to work on getting the skin back to good health by forcing it to secrete dna again. You can smother a stretch mark with silicone pads or even tape (not recommended because you can get silicone in scar kits). By cutting the air supply off to the stretch mark you are forcing it to hydrate itself through sweating. There are glands and folicles but they are very weak from being pulled apart but they can be repaired! The more you commit to doing your own treatment on these marks using silicone scar patches,.wearing them to bed and under clothes, the faster you will see promising results. Some stretch marks however are very deep and cannot be smoothed over due to atrophy. When we speak about skin miracles we are always addressing skin that has not suffered huge atrophy (loss of firmness from weight gain/loss/regain). If the skin is taut and has elasticity and the marks are not measurably deep, you can get a good result by using the silicone (suffocation) method. If your skin can produce sweat and oil and grow a folicle, it is capable of 100% recovery.

Koijro, what do you make of this? Can it truly be this simple?

Shoo

Bullshit logic clouded by false science. I've explained the faults in this paragraph before. A few of them are...

1. Skin does not secrete DNA... nothing secretes DNA (with the exception of bacteria, viruses and maybe a few other rare cases). Cells replicate and specialize to heal wounds.
2. Putting tape or silicone on a scar does not "cut off the air supply". Skin does not breath from the outside. The lower levels of skin are supplied oxygen from blood. The upper levels of skin are oxygen deprived and essentially dead.
3. Sweating is not going to fix a stretch mark. However, if you are sweating it generally means there is more blood flow to the skin (blood and heat are being moved there to dissipate it) which is a good thing.
4. There is some relevance between regrowth of a hair follice and skin repair. Stem cells live inside the hair follice shaft, but matters get much more complicated than this. Nor do I believe that just because oil glands have been restored that there will be 100% resolution of the scar.

Basically they tooks a bunch of lies and threw some scientific terms into it so that people would be like "omg, that must work!"

[Guest]

Just because tca does not work for some people does not mean it does not work for everybody. I would suggest that those who have not tried it do try it and see if it works for them themselves.

As always I will add, stick to lower strengths, do a test area first and follow the instructions you get with it carefully.

J

[Guest]

americangirl wrote:
I just feel like if you do not agree with various methods of removal--just move along.


You will have to put up with both sides. This board is not just for those that believe one way and ignore reality.

Okay. Well I hope you enjoy being negative--why don't you just keep it to yourself though? I am not going to comment on your negative remarks.

I don't see where this person is being negative. If someone disagrees with one point of view, does that automatically make them negative? Especially if that person is commenting on their own experience and the advice of just about every expert.

Someone posted this a while ago maybe not the exact words but something close: There is a difference between negativity and reality.

[Guest]

anybody know where i can buy a genuine microdermabrasion cloth from?
the ebay ones all look a bit fake

[RK]

I'm not sure if I'm the person you mean when you mention the poster that's had prof. peels done & saw no improvement... but I did mine at home, am unsure of total number (7-8 consecutive, doing another round now with Retin-A). My TCA came from Yavonnae.

I'm having to use Retin-A a lot less often on mybreasts , as am suffering EXTREME irritation - I think i'll put it on there once or twice a week only for a while... elsewhere it's cuasing no probs, which also makes me wonder if it's genuine (and whether I just have excema probs on my breasts). So if anyone has any experience of Retin-A purchased from Pharmacy2u that would be much appreciated.

I'm sorry if I lowered the tone of the board.. but I'm not going to postr about results I'm not seeing. It doesn't mean I don't believe other people or want to find an answer... sheesh.

RK

[Guest]

I'm not sure if I'm the person you mean when you mention the poster that's had prof. peels done & saw no improvement... but I did mine at home, am unsure of total number (7-8 consecutive, doing another round now with Retin-A). My TCA came from Yavonnae.

I'm having to use Retin-A a lot less often on mybreasts , as am suffering EXTREME irritation - I think i'll put it on there once or twice a week only for a while... elsewhere it's cuasing no probs, which also makes me wonder if it's genuine (and whether I just have excema probs on my breasts). So if anyone has any experience of Retin-A purchased from Pharmacy2u that would be much appreciated.

I'm sorry if I lowered the tone of the board.. but I'm not going to postr about results I'm not seeing. It doesn't mean I don't believe other people or want to find an answer... sheesh.

RK

RK I don't think it is you that she was referring to. Your postings to the board are perfectly valid, you don't say a thing just does not work like some are. Instead you say it has not worked on you. I cannot understand why if you peel with tca you get no improvement. Wish we had a derm on here with some answers to that one.

J

[Guest]

My peels were done professionally, was not aware you could do them yourself. Began at 20% TCA, with the last one being 35%. I also had a Jessners peel, percentage strength I do not know. I am happy for you all that you remain so optimistic, but I think your time could be devoted to trying out new things as opposed to things which dermatologists feel does not help and which a lot of members of this board have tried with no success. Everyone's skin is different and what works for some may not work for others, and I was much more willing to believe that until someone on this board pointed out what J had posted on another website.

[Mai]

Calmness ladies. We are all here for the same reason...

I did not mean to caste doubt on J's experiences by mentioning her posts on skinbio.

Though I would be lying if I did not admit if has made me doubt her credibility just a little. I mean I have seen results that were not actually there too.

I continue with glycolic acid and am still considering TCA - if there are more posts about results from it.

Acell - human version recently released, they have a list of doctors who use it but they do not specify whether or not they use it for scar treatment. The problem is that it is just so difficult to get a hold of.

[Guest]

My peels were done professionally, was not aware you could do them yourself. Began at 20% TCA, with the last one being 35%. I also had a Jessners peel, percentage strength I do not know. I am happy for you all that you remain so optimistic, but I think your time could be devoted to trying out new things as opposed to things which dermatologists feel does not help and which a lot of members of this board have tried with no success. Everyone's skin is different and what works for some may not work for others, and I was much more willing to believe that until someone on this board pointed out what J had posted on another website.

What exactly did I post? You mean the question regarding tca and whether it permanently removes marks? I posted that because there seems to be a constant argument about whether they return or not on here. Besides if you are going to accuse, post the details of what you are talking about rather than just alluding to them. Much more grown up that way.

J