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Postby James Barnes » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:06 pm

Mai wrote:Wow James,
That was really nice of you. I am the one person who tries to answer your question and you write a nice note about how fantastic J is and about how other people are looking at this site while waiting for porn to load.
your welcome.

And if you had really read the past 25 pages, you would see that I was really not that rude to her, at all. Like I said, I applaud what she's doing but I've been here a long time so I am waiting until final results are in.

However it's nice to know that my contributions are appreciated, seeing as how I take valuable time away from waiting for my porn to load to post them. LOL


I didn't mean you, by any means, how could I say that you were rude, if you answer my questions? :D Really, sorry If I expressed myself incorrectly, I'm not from an english speaking country but I'm trying my best to write correctly. I don't think YOU were rude, or ignorant and not one of the ''fat porn site people''. Again, sorry, no offense intended. I was refering to the guests, who just come in and say ''stretch marks can't be removed'' and stuff like that, which I think are idiots. And yes, I haven't read the last 10-25 pages thoroughly, what can I say, I'm a guy which is a synonym for lazy. :)

I can't really express how sorry I am if I offended anyone. It was not my intention to offend anyone (maybe only the guests who don't even leave a name, just some unnecessary comments). I hope I didn't make the matter worse.

Really sorry,
James
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Postby Mai » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:53 pm

Thank you.
It did look a little strange that your reply, right after mine was a little rant.
Just in general I am getting tired of some of the replies though - with a very exceptions people have been polite about voicing their disagreement and they are getting jumped on more than J was.
I have been polite and I admire what she's doing and all the help she provides (and unlike most others I ALWAYS leave my name) and yet I know that some of this is directed at me.
There's no reason to be rude, and there's no reason to be here if you don't believe stretch marks can be cured but we are only hurting ourselves if we all blindly jump on one bandwagon after another.
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Postby Guest » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:02 pm

Mai-
Isn't the topic here stretch marks????? It was obvious that James wasn't singling you out yet you are making this forum about you. Get back on track-stretch marks are why we come here.
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Postby Guest » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:29 pm

Mai wrote:Just in general I am getting tired of some of the replies though - with a very exceptions people have been polite about voicing their disagreement and they are getting jumped on more than J was.


Exactly! There are definitely a couple of unnecessary posts like the ones that call people stupid but even those that very politely disagree with the bandwagon of the month get told to move along or not to post if they don't believe the current method on trial is going to work. Those people are just as ignorant as those doing the name calling.

I also agree we do need to stay on track and focus on the real topic of stretch marks. I just hope we can do so and at the same time respect ALL opinions.
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TCA peel kit

Postby James Barnes » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:05 pm

Might not be the best time to ask but...
Can someone here please direct me to a reliable source from which I could buy a TCA peel kit? I've read around a lot and people who actually have tried it say that their stretch marks are gone, so I decided to take matters in my own hands and not wait my visit to the dermatologist, which could turn out to be quite expensive.

If I messed up (As I often do) and started asking questions too soon, then you really don't have to answer, just ignore me, and please, don't remind me that I should've shut my mouth (stop my fingers?) for a little more time... :roll:

Best wishes,
James ;)
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Virgin coconut oil to remove stretch marks

Postby sunita123 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:21 pm

Virgin coconut oil helps stretch marks
Plz try out virgin coconut oil to remove stretch marks it contains Vitamin E
It has been a long time tradition here in south india to use virgin coconut oil on an expanding pregnant belly. Apply every day especially after a shower, while still wet. It is also very beneficial to hair after the beach, or before if your hair gets dried out in the salt water. I recommend using Monoi Tamanu oil , very expensive but worth it. I already had stretch marks and mine have faded since using this oil. Good luck and congratulations to having beautiful skin!!
Plz try out MeritVCO brand from excelcombine.com its aviable _..
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Postby Mai » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:19 am

Platinum skin care has been highly reviewed here in terms of service and product quality. It is however based in the states making shipping a bit of a problem if you don't live there. Also, its possible to buy TCA off ebay but then you can't guarantee the quality of the product you buy...
Lastly, you said you are just starting out, it's probably better not to jump right in with TCA, again, read over the past 25 pages, you will find you should start out with glycolic to get your skin used to it.

Oh and btw, if any of you have anything to say to me, try and not me too much of a baby and not post anonymously, ok?

much love.

oh and btw, since I do live in Asia I had hopes that there was some strange, secret traditional treatment Asian women use for sm. I have been to several doctors who just look at me like uh-uh. but i will let you know if I find anything. If this continues I might actually get desperate enough to try beauty-tek, because I really can't find a single independent review of it.
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Postby Guest » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:42 am

r u alwayz this useless? :roll:
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Postby Mai » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:46 am

well I do try, it's hard being so useless sometimes. I havn't quite yet mastered the epitome of uselessness by leaving bitchy comments anonymously but I am working on it.

In the meantime, tell us, honey, where do you buy your TCA (as that was the question that was asked) or what new treatments are you trying?
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Postby Guest » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:04 am

bravo :lolup:
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Postby americangirl » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:19 am

Mai--please just ignore that random guest that is posting.

And, I have heard that Makeupartistschoice.com has good TCA peel kits--but the people that used this kit was using it for Acne Scarring and not Stretch Marks. I got the glycolic acid peel kit from them && at first it seemed to not get much of a reaction on my skin but I have since tried J's footfiling method (lightly of course) before I apply it and I get a reaction.

And James Barnes refer to page 410 for a detailed description of starting a TCA peel treatment. A lot of the questions you will probably have are answered on that page and a few following pages. Also what sites have you looked at where people have gotten rid of stretch marks with TCA? I'd like to take a look at those places.

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Re: Sorry if I'm ignorant...

Postby Kojiro » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:21 am

James Barnes4 wrote:Sorry if I'm ignorant at some point, just reading a lot of c**p around the internet about stretch marks is so depressing and misleading. Could you please bring me back to the basics as why can't the body differentiate normal tissue from scar tissue? As I know, then the body works in the way to survive, it doesn't care about the aesthetic look, so when the stretch mark occurs, it just seals it off as if to protect from blood loss. What can be done to help the body find that ''bad'' tissue? Also, why are there raised and sunken stretch marks? Is it just because some people's bodies generate more scar tissue than others? What would happen it a laser was used to melt the scar tissue away, would it end up looking like a regular, sunken stretch mark? I just think it is so simple, yet so complicated, because the science of using lasers like Fraxel and ActiveFX is that it removes the damaged tissue causing microscopic wounds for the body to heal itself, thus the damaged tissue is replaced by the body with new, undamaged tissue. What seems to be the problem with this, shouldn't it make the stretch mark go away, not just improve it?


There are actually some excellent questions.

First of all your body can tell the difference between scar tissue and normal tissue. This is why scars are remodelled over a peroid of up to two years after the injury first occurs. Essentially at some point your body says, "alright, that's good enough" and that is normally the scar that you are left with. Your body prioritizes things, and stretch marks are not as determental from an evolutionary point as we here believe they are from a psychosocial perspective.

So in using acids, we are largely targetting all the skin, not just the stretch marks. You are exfolating both scarred and normal skin, and hoping that when the skin replenishes what your burned off, it does so only with normal skin. Dr. Pickart claims that copper peptides cause your body to degrade scar tissue, I really don't believe this. I believe that the best thing about copper peptides is that they prevent the formation of scar tissue. So as you are removing the scar tissue, they should help assure that the skin replacing what you burned off is free of scars.

As far as laser goes, the problem with just burning away the scar tissue, is it will be replaced with more scar tissue. From what I understand, your body is able to improve the stretch marks because when you poke small holes into the scar tissue you trigger your body to produce more collagen which will help "puff" up the skin so that it isn't quite as sunken. In reality, you aren't really getting rid of the scar tissue, you are just making it closer to normal skin.

I personally feel that the future of stretch mark repair lies in laser technology, not acids. Although our current lasers are not 100% effective, they do still give some amazing results. And remember, 10 years ago there probably weren't any lasers at all. Medical research and medical success seems to grow expontentially. I imagine 5 years from now, the lasers available will be more than twice effective than they are now, 10 years from now they may be incredible.

Overall, the best advice I can give for now is to accept your stretch marks. If you want to try acids, copper peptides, skin brushing, etc., that is great. There are many people out there who have reporting phenominal results using these methods. If you don't believe these things work, that's fine. Having scars sucks, there's no arguing that, but it doesn't have to consume your life. There are plenty of people out there who are facing problems much worse than us. With stretch marks there are treatment options which are improving greatly with time, and there are many people who have just decided to come to terms with their stretch marks and have become stronger people as a result of this. If you are seriously depressed about your stretch marks, seek help. Depression is not going to help your situation at all, and it could reflect even deeper problems. I know this as I went through a fairly long peroid of depression myself. Its something that I eventually pulled out of (after about a year of chronic depression), but its never easy. My one regret now, is that I didn't look for help at the time, because it is out there, be it family, a friend, or a professional. You are not alone in this fight, remember that.
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Postby Mai » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:33 am

As for the copper peptides, I am actually experimenting injecting them into the stretch marks. (right now not a method I would recommend to anybody, am under medical supervision, please no one try this just yet) but if it turns out they do degrade scar tissue I should soon be in a position to know about it. Will keep you all updated.
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Postby James Barnes » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:47 am

americangirl wrote:Mai--please just ignore that random guest that is posting.

And, I have heard that Makeupartistschoice.com has good TCA peel kits--but the people that used this kit was using it for Acne Scarring and not Stretch Marks. I got the glycolic acid peel kit from them && at first it seemed to not get much of a reaction on my skin but I have since tried J's footfiling method (lightly of course) before I apply it and I get a reaction.

And James Barnes refer to page 410 for a detailed description of starting a TCA peel treatment. A lot of the questions you will probably have are answered on that page and a few following pages. Also what sites have you looked at where people have gotten rid of stretch marks with TCA? I'd like to take a look at those places.

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Well, actually the websites I found people who removed their stretch marks are either in russian or latvian. There were some sites in english that gave me hope, like this one:

http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=49690

But I think this was already discussed before, some people even calling the person trying 50% crazy. Then there was a YouTube video I found, maybe not related to stretch marks, but about a person tried the 50% TCA chemical peel and saw improvement in eczema:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3935W0ShMTY

The website I found the most answers about stretch marks (With all kinds of opinions), was in latvian, the answers from ''experts'' were that stretch marks can't be removed. Though, people who stated using TCA peels for their stretch marks claimed that they had completely cured them. There were some hope giving answers from beauty salon ''experts'' also. I found the website by google.lv writing in the word ''Strijas'' which is latvian for striae. Anyway, the site is:

www.medicine.lv

I'm sorry about the language barrier, because this site really can't prove to you that stretch marks can be removed, but it provided me with the confidence I need to get rid of those things. I guess, you'll just have to trust me... :)
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Re: Sorry if I'm ignorant...

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:44 am

Kojiro wrote:As far as laser goes, the problem with just burning away the scar tissue, is it will be replaced with more scar tissue. From what I understand, your body is able to improve the stretch marks because when you poke small holes into the scar tissue you trigger your body to produce more collagen which will help "puff" up the skin so that it isn't quite as sunken. In reality, you aren't really getting rid of the scar tissue, you are just making it closer to normal skin.


hi kojiro,

isnt this exactly what needling does?
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