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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:07 pm

sexybk8xx wrote:well its not just my placeof work, everyone i know pays about that on their tax. so maybe our tax is just different in NI


I honestly couldn't say.

What I do know is that the basic maths are:

£11k less £419.65 (11%) N.I. cont = £10,580.35

£10,580 less £5.035 Personal Allowance = £5,545.35

The first £2,150 of that is taxed at 10% (£215), which leaves £3,395.35 which should be taxed @ 22% £407.45 so your tax bill per year should be:

N.I £419.65
10% Tax £215
22% Tax £407.45
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Total £1,042.10
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This into 12 moths equals £86.85 per month and about 2 1/2 times less than the £200 a month you're quoting.

Something somewhere is going wrong. Have a word with an accountant about it as it could be you're on an emergency tax code which is a higher rate, (I think it's a flat 25%) which would be £2,750 into 12 months so that would be £229.16 a month.

If you're married or living with someone as a married couple your personal allowance should increase so you're paying even less tax than what I've worked out above.

I personally think it's disgusting that if you're self employed you only have to buy £7 a week of NI stamps whereas if you're employed you're taxed at 11% on your gross wage.

I could well be wrong on this one, but looking at the Inland Revenue site this is what I work it out at :?:
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Postby ziggyfairy on Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:45 pm

Hi, I think Curvey Brunette's sums are correct.

Also, there is no difference in the tax system in Northern Ireland - it's part of the UK.

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Postby puckle gun on Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:33 pm

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Postby lady therese on Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:18 pm

A lot of students really has the same problem as yours. I am just curious, have you thought of Student Loan Consolidation plans. It usually lessens the interest rate and extends the repayment period for your loans.

You may refer to your lender about it.

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Postby glitter_kelly on Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:58 am

Hi, I'm a student at University and I do agree with how stressul money matters can me.

I work part time currently but as same as you in my final year I don't plan to work and concentrate on my final year.

It annoys me as the people I work for part time (I'm only a cleaner, work 15 hours a week Mon-Fri 6am-9am) says how good students have it, getting all these loans etc but its really not like that!

I get the full amount of loan (started before Sept 2006 so its on the old Loan structure - it works totoally different now doesn't it?!) so I get about £4500 over the year, but over £3000 of this goes to my landloards, so after the price of books, food, living expenses theres nothing left, and actually I spend more than I have.

I have an over draft which is at £1000 overdrawn, and I have been working in my part time job now for 6 months and earned around £2000 but imagine if I hadn't got this job, I really don't know what I'd have done.

I live in halls, but they're not University run, and just the other week I got a parking fine from the lanlords for £60, I wasn't really obstructing as it says on the ticket, and I disputed it but recieved a letter today saying my despute has been un-succesful. £60 for a parking fine to students? Thats horrendous! The council only charge £30!

I'd definatly see about applying for an hardship grant, my university give these out to students who are struggling and may have to drop out because of money issues, and they also give them to final eyar students as a preference, so if this is the same at your University you may be lucky! And you don't always have to pay it back, as it is a grant.
But only thing was, I was reading that some universities only give them if the student has taken the full amount of loan, now I don't know if that means that you have had the income asssed loan paid to your also (which I get).
I'd definatly look into gettng that grant, you will have to visit your universities finance office to apply for that I think. You do have to prove your funding issues etc too.

To conclude, my advice is to carry on with your studies, 9 months isn't long. And as other poeple have said, if you can freeze your credit cards so you get no more interest etc that'd be good. Just stuick it out for 9 more months and you have got a brilliant future ahead of you!!

Good luck love, and hope you get that First your wanting!!
All the best,
Kelly
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Re: Student Debt

Postby Fat_Tony on Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:30 am

confusedlady wrote:Hello there everyone

I'm not sure where I am supposed to post this so I hope this is the right forum. I really just need to tell someone about whats bothering me and get it all of my chest.

I am a student studying for a degree in Psychology and am in my final year. I am worried about the amount of debt I am accumulating: student loans, credit cards etc. Is anyone else here in the same situation? How do you feel about it all ? Any advise you can give me?

I am not employed at the moment. I quit my job the middle of last year to concentrate on my studies at university. For the first year I continued to work and study at university, and I got decent grades. The grades I received last year were for when I wasnt working and I was amazed at the difference. Theres a eight point difference which could mean getting a high second or a first class degree. So I have decided to not work in my final year of study and try and go for a first.

Its important to me that I get a good degree and I am the first one in my family too go to university so they are all counting on me too do well as well. I will never get a chance to do this again. I dont want to mess it up by working. However the pressure and constant reminders in the post are making me depressed. Pretty soon I will have to make a decison.

Do I leave university for a year work for abit to ease the pressure and then go back? The only problem with this avenue of escape is that I am worried that once I am out there working full-time again and getting a decent wage I will prefer the money over my studies. I would like to stay and continue to the finish line.

Any other students suffering the same agonies ?


I know this was posted some time ago, but I hope this is still of use.

I would finish my studies if I were you since you are so close--unless you will really be financially disrupted right after college, which I do not think will be any more worse since again you are so close to finishing up.

Do well and get your degree. It will empower you to have a higher salary.

Then go and work for the next two-three years. You can pay off yoru debt slowly and if you decide to continue to go on to graduate school can get a deferment but at the cost of a higher interest later on.

In the long run, playing off your debt slowly is better over say four to five years, as it bills credit. So if you work 2-3 years before going back to college, than you will have a good CV with work experience, a college degree, money earned, and nice credit and a good chuck of yoru debt taken off you back.

Then in graduate school, you can get the deferment and still pay a little bit here and there at your own pace, which will be deducted from your debt. By the time you get out of graduate school, you will be close to if not totally debt free, unless you go into some other profession like medicine or law, in which case you have to pay.

In psychology and any other science or engineering field and math, they pay you a stipend, albeit it a modest one, and there is a full tuition waiver. If you live on the cheap, you can actually save a couple thousand dollars a year, add it to your savings from yoru work earnings and compile the interest each term. Believe me it adds up and you will come out on top at the end.

So think long term, not at the big fat debt you have now! It is hard when you are in your 20's and I know it was hard for me as well, but this is what I did and I came out well.

The thing that most grads do is live stupid. They don't shop and cook, but instead go out and eat, buy things that they really do not need. They need the best cell phone, an ipod, a top of the line computer, the fastest internet.

Reconsider options. Why not become an RA and get free housing, in which the dorms often provide a T2 free internet line? Instead of a top of the line cell phone, go an get the cheapest ones that you can use a phone card that will last longer. But a second hand comput for a few hundreds to do the work you need at your dorm and the higher end stuff at computer labs, that have the best computers money can buy and which most likely as a grad you will not--unless you have rich parents that are willing to tow the bill for you (which I would not recommend at any rate, as getting as independent as possible is the best, rewardling experience of life you can have).

You can have a wonderful experience, a great education, work experience and a robust CV and money at the end waiting for you, growing, and even be completely debt free, and all with a graduate degree that will command a high salary and offord you opportunities otherwise not as readily attainable.

So go out there and take life by the balls! And don't let anyone discourage you from your dreams or ambitions.

I wish you the best! :)

P.S. Loose the credit cards! You do not need them and they are the biggest debt collecting little devils out there.

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Postby monosodium on Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:51 pm

Curvey_Brunette wrote:
Danko wrote:I am in debt up to my eyeballs after my studying.


But WHY are you in debt?

Don't know about anyone else, but as a student I got in debt from such frivolous things as paying for the roof over my head, not freezing to death in the winter and eating...

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Postby Rugar on Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:59 pm

I am a student.I have finished my finals, but am (hopefully) going into postgraduate studies for another 4 years at least. I couldn't get the student loan because my parents were outside of the boundary; but despite this it is very hard for them to support me. I am really pissing them off asking for a little more money if I got in trouble with medication or get ill (which I have been a lot at uni), and my disability which means i need to buy more stationary and equipment than usual.

The idea of a degree and the loan that comes with it, is to let students get a prosperous job which they are able to pay the debt which got them there! It's not really working that well. I think education should be free, but universities shouldn't, by converse, an extension of the state in the way most state schools are. This was a reality in the past, so I heard, with grants and the like.

I'm not able to make too much money, if any, because I get a little bit poorly regularly. My postgrad will be a nightmare... I won't get too much money as an academic and the fees will cos up to 50k!

Students haven't got it easy

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