THE O'Bumma Thread - Original Vintage Edition

[Big Ben]

o'bummer picks biden as his vp choice:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/veepstakes

hillary wasn't even vetted or considered, a standard political procedure to show respect. So obama must think he can win without her.

When selecting obama as their nominee over hillary, it's funny how the democratic superdelegates didn't care about disenfranchising voters from Michigan and Florida, and women voters.

[mogadishu]

Hmm, but would that have been very honest of him? According to some commentators, Hillary is supporting McCain in this election so that she can run in 2012. And all the democrat contenders agreed not to compete in Michigan and Florida anyway.

[Big Ben]

Well, I'm glad obama didn't choose hillary with her 18 million voters (about what he got) for VP. It would most likely have been a winning ticket with liberals, blacks and women coming together. Without hillary, McCain seems to have a fighting chance.

[mogadishu]

Hmm... apparently about of a fifth of her supporters are firmly for McCain.

[Big Ben]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

[Lena]

Biden's a good choice , has a broad appeal to working people and the Catholics.

Knows alot about foreign affairs too

Big Ben was only partly right about the vp's job being powerless. it is technically but the job has gotten more important in day to day things . Look at how cheney has so much power under little georgey .It also goes beyond the village idiot and the evil sorcerer too, on the news they were saying how Al Gore ( the real winner of the 2000 election ) was handling alot under Clinton .

[Ivan Diederhoff]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

Oh yes, much like President Cheney, and VP Bush?

[Big Ben]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

Oh yes, much like President Cheney, and VP Bush?

If the ticket is President Biden and apprentice-in-training newbie obama, I'd feel much safer. Unfortunately, I don't think obama will let biden have that much influence. The VP only has as much influence as the President allows him to have. bush doesn't have nearly as strong convictions that cheney has, but obama has very strong convictions of his own, unfortunately.

[Ivan Diederhoff]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

Oh yes, much like President Cheney, and VP Bush?

If the ticket is President Biden and apprentice-in-training newbie obama, I'd feel much safer. Unfortunately, I don't think obama will let biden have that much influence. The VP only has as much influence as the President allows him to have. bush doesn't have nearly as strong convictions that cheney has, but obama has very strong convictions of his own, unfortunately.

Cheney doesn't have any convictions, no charges have ever been brought.

Bush, well he just doesn't have a brain. Even republicans started distancing themselves from him. He made more allies disappear faster than a set of rims at a puff daddy concert.

[Big Ben]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

Oh yes, much like President Cheney, and VP Bush?

If the ticket is President Biden and apprentice-in-training newbie obama, I'd feel much safer. Unfortunately, I don't think obama will let biden have that much influence. The VP only has as much influence as the President allows him to have. bush doesn't have nearly as strong convictions that cheney has, but obama has very strong convictions of his own, unfortunately.

Cheney doesn't have any convictions, no charges have ever been brought.

Bush, well he just doesn't have a brain. Even republicans started distancing themselves from him. He made more allies disappear faster than a set of rims at a puff daddy concert.

With regards to Cheney, you are using another meaning of the word conviction, so I don't understand your point.

With regards to Bush, you can love him or you can hate him. But either way, it doesn't change the fact Joe Biden didn't think obama is qualified to be President and publicly said so on no uncertain terms.

[Cambridge]

o'bummer picks biden as his vp choice:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/veepstakes

hillary wasn't even vetted or considered, a standard political procedure to show respect. So obama must think he can win without her.

When selecting obama as their nominee over hillary, it's funny how the democratic superdelegates didn't care about disenfranchising voters from Michigan and Florida, and women voters.

I, for one, am glad Obama never considered the Clintons. Bubba and company are the worst hillbillies in national politics...he can't even keep his dick in his pants. How could you fall for an ugly fat girl who doesn't even swallow.

Of course he is better off without her. She may have had 18-million who voted for her, but who is counting the 30-million who would vote against her under the negative vote. Myron would understand.

Michigan and Florida willingly chose not to participate in the primary elections by violating the rules. Voters in Michigan and Florida need to look to their own internal party, ousting the appropriate culprits, and not blame the national party.

[ZiaAries]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

Oh yes, much like President Cheney, and VP Bush?

If the ticket is President Biden and apprentice-in-training newbie obama, I'd feel much safer. Unfortunately, I don't think obama will let biden have that much influence. The VP only has as much influence as the President allows him to have. bush doesn't have nearly as strong convictions that cheney has, but obama has very strong convictions of his own, unfortunately.

I think Obama made an excellent choice for his VP running mate. And yeah, I feel safer too with Biden on the ticket.... just in case, the god's forbid he is elected.

Forget about him "not letting Biden have much influence" because I don't buy that. Obama picked Biden because he needs him in the office to do the job. Biden is much stronger than Obama for the office of President. Like everyone else, we don't see him having the same appeal that "groovy boy" has but he can do the job.

NOW... Who is John-Boy gonna swing with?

[Lena]

They said on tv McCain will have to pick right winger since those people don't like him and he needs them to win

Lucky us , another divorced from reality ideological person ready to take over...................

[Ivan Diederhoff]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

Oh yes, much like President Cheney, and VP Bush?

If the ticket is President Biden and apprentice-in-training newbie obama, I'd feel much safer. Unfortunately, I don't think obama will let biden have that much influence. The VP only has as much influence as the President allows him to have. bush doesn't have nearly as strong convictions that cheney has, but obama has very strong convictions of his own, unfortunately.

Cheney doesn't have any convictions, no charges have ever been brought.

Bush, well he just doesn't have a brain. Even republicans started distancing themselves from him. He made more allies disappear faster than a set of rims at a puff daddy concert.

With regards to Cheney, you are using another meaning of the word conviction, so I don't understand your point.

With regards to Bush, you can love him or you can hate him. But either way, it doesn't change the fact Joe Biden didn't think obama is qualified to be President and publicly said so on no uncertain terms.

I was just making a joke on the word conviction, Ben. It seemed a good opportunity to show I don't take it all too seriously.

[Big Ben]

hillary isn't supporting McCain - that would be political suicide. Some of her supporters may be in mourning but they may or may not actually vote for McCain come election day.

By picking Biden, it looks like obama is acknowledging that experience and knowing what the heck you are doing actually is important. But how is it good to have the experience on your ticket in a powerless VP position? The effective method is to have the experience held at the top of the ticket, at the Commander-in-Chief spot, since he is the one who has to make the crucial decisions.

Oh yes, much like President Cheney, and VP Bush?

If the ticket is President Biden and apprentice-in-training newbie obama, I'd feel much safer. Unfortunately, I don't think obama will let biden have that much influence. The VP only has as much influence as the President allows him to have. bush doesn't have nearly as strong convictions that cheney has, but obama has very strong convictions of his own, unfortunately.

Cheney doesn't have any convictions, no charges have ever been brought.

Bush, well he just doesn't have a brain. Even republicans started distancing themselves from him. He made more allies disappear faster than a set of rims at a puff daddy concert.

With regards to Cheney, you are using another meaning of the word conviction, so I don't understand your point.

With regards to Bush, you can love him or you can hate him. But either way, it doesn't change the fact Joe Biden didn't think obama is qualified to be President and publicly said so on no uncertain terms.

I was just making a joke on the word conviction, Ben. It seemed a good opportunity to show I don't take it all too seriously.

Ok. I'm glad that was the reason.