The most powerful military powers

[myron myron]

The UK's "future ships" will carry the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, an American airplane, eh?

No, that aircraft is jointly being developed by Britain AND America. Our defence compay is BAE Systems.

BAE Systems also OWNS the company that makes Hummers and Bradleys. (US army equipment!)

Hummers are made in the United States by AM General LLC and General Dynamics Land Systems.

Owned by BAE Systems (British Defence Company).

Bradleys are made in the United States by FMC Corp.

Owned by BAE Systems (British Defence Company).

Lockheed Martin is an American corporation.

Working with BAE Systems to create the F-35 Lightning which we will purhase 138 of for our carriers.

Prove it.

And which carriers are you talking about?

[The Colonel]

The UK's "future ships" will carry the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, an American airplane, eh?

No, that aircraft is jointly being developed by Britain AND America. Our defence compay is BAE Systems.

BAE Systems also OWNS the company that makes Hummers and Bradleys. (US army equipment!)

Hummers are made in the United States by AM General LLC and General Dynamics Land Systems.

Owned by BAE Systems (British Defence Company).

Bradleys are made in the United States by FMC Corp.

Owned by BAE Systems (British Defence Company).

Lockheed Martin is an American corporation.

Working with BAE Systems to create the F-35 Lightning which we will purhase 138 of for our carriers.

Prove it.

And which carriers are you talking about?

The Bradley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Bradley

The Humvee: (seems as if we own part of it, not all)

Another drawback of the uparmored HMMWVs occurs during an accident or attack, when the heavily armored doors tend to jam shut, trapping the troops inside.[12] As a result, HMMWVs are being fitted with hooks on their doors, so that another vehicle can rip the door off, freeing the troops inside.[13] In addition, Vehicle Emergency Escape (VEE) windows, developed by BAE are currently being fielded for use on the M1114 uparmored HMMWV, with 1000 kits ordered.[14]

The soldier crewing the machine gun on top of the vehicle is extremely vulnerable; however, many HMMWVs have been fitted with basic gun shields, as was the case with M113 APCs after they were first deployed in Vietnam. The U.S. military is currently evaluating a new form of protection, developed by BAE Systems as well as systems designed by the Army, which are already in theater.[15] The new gunner's seat is protected by 1.5 to 2 feet (45.72 - 60.96 cm) high steel plates with bullet-proof glass windows. Additionally, some HMMWV use CROWS, which slaves the machine gun to controls in the back seat to allow remote operation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HUMVEE


I LOVE THIS BIT!

BAE Systems Land Systems manufactures the British Army's Challenger II, Warrior Tracked Armoured Vehicle, M777 howitzer, Panther Command and Liaison Vehicle and L85 Assault Rifle. BAE Systems Land and Armaments manufactures the M2/M3 Bradley fighting vehicle family, the US Navy Advanced Gun System (AGS), the M109 Paladin and the United States Presidential State Car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE

[myron myron]

You're caught bullshitting once again, eh Colonel?

[The Colonel]

You're caught bullshitting once again, eh Colonel?

It's all there in black and white you dimwit.

[myron myron]

You're caught bullshitting once again, eh Colonel?

It's all there in black and white you dimwit.

Yes, your lies and bigotry are in black and white, littering this forum.

[Cambridge]

Two points. Medicare covers seniors, currently the most populous of age groups. So that's a matter of fortuitous statistics.

And if only one-third of the population is covered, what is happening with the other two-thirds? I think you just made Colonel’s point.

The U.S. does not have nationalized medicine.

Almost 60% of all Americans are covered under private health insurance.

About 33% of Americans (roughly 100 million) are covered under Medicaid or Medicare.

The remaining 7% or so of Americans without health insurance or Medicaid/Medicare are undoubtedly a problem, but they can still obtain medical care in publicly-owned hospitals.

The Colonel's so-called "point" that American children without medical insurance are routinely denied medical treatment and "left to die," is patently false.

Figures cited by politically biased media on the number of Americans without health insurance dishonestly count as "uninsured" people covered by Medicaid and sometimes even people covered by Medicare.

You know, these figures seemed to be a bit fanciful, myron, so I went the the United States House of Representatives, Ways and Means Committee, Medicare and Health Care Chartbook and found the exact source of medical care for all Americans. Here are the facts they provide:

Private health insurance 31%
Out- of- pocket spending 19%
Other private sources 4%
Federal government 33%
State and local 13%

Total Expenditures = $988.5 Billion

Source: Chart prepared by CRS based on data from the Office of the Actuary, National Cost Estimates, HCFA.

Interesting, is it not? Gone is your speculation that 60% of Americans have private health insurance. Nearly 20% have to provide their own healthcare, meaning they have no program at all. The telling statistic is that in 2006 15.8% (47 million) were uninsured and could not provide for themselves. I believe you had spectlated that it was half than number. So, nearly 35% of Americans either provide their own healthcare or go without. That’s five times as much as you had given us (7%).

...all proving that the Colonel is not not the bullshitter that his competition is, eh?

[myron myron]

The 60% figure is from the Colonel's own post:

The percentage of people (workers and dependents) with employment-based health insurance has dropped from 70 percent in 1987 to 59 percent in 2006. This is the lowest level of employment-based insurance coverage in more than a decade.

You are a jackass, Cambridge/walker.

[The Colonel]

[The Colonel]

[myron myron]

The British SAS and SBS trains the Australian SAS and the US Seals.

More lies and bullshit.

[myron myron]

You're caught bullshitting once again, eh Colonel?

It's all there in black and white you dimwit.

Yes, your lies and bigotry are in black and white, littering this forum.

Hurt your Turkish pride has it that Britain owns US defence companies?

You should be pleased. BAE is outstanding. Just you wait until HMS Combatant comes into service in around 2020! There will be nothing in the world to challenge it!

I don't dislike Americans, but I dislike American bullshitters. The same goes for the British too.

To date you have not been able to prove that I've lied at all. That either means I'm not a liar - or you aren't a very good lawyer!

The lies you refer to, as everyone here well knows (and therefore why they don't bother to listen to you) were fibs to trolls. Very few members here that have been here as long as I have are innocent of doing that. Everybody winds up guest trolls.

And further, and educated person would know that you cannot be bigoted to mythology.

On both counts, you fail.

Your own admission that you are a liar and a bigot is the best proof.

Idiot.

[The Colonel]

[myron myron]

I did know what you know -- when I was 12 years old.

[The Colonel]

I did know what you know -- when I was 12 years old.

Think again.

[myron myron]

It's more a case of the Oz SAS and US Seals using the British SAS systems as part of their own training, rather than being directly trained by them..

That is entirely possible.