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Postby Fred75 on Tue May 06, 2008 2:26 pm

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WTF is this. A threat from the most inane contributor on the site?
HB, grow up. What exactly will you post on the Members thread?


Threat???
You talking to me or the Colonel?
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Postby Fred75 on Tue May 06, 2008 2:29 pm

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The average life of a smoker is 10 years less than it should be, and smoking kills other people through second hand smoke - kids, the young and old.

I trust you do not smoke, have never smoked, don't tolerate smoking and active petition Congress for an outright ban on tobacco too?


Well Fred?

DON'T IGNORE THE QUESTION OR I'LL POST IT IN MEMBERS


Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.
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Postby The Colonel on Tue May 06, 2008 3:07 pm

Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Sorry to burst you bubble here... but men having sex with men IS harmful.
It killed thousands of hemophiliacs and is the reason blood banks do not accept blood from gay men!
THEIR LIFESTYLE KILLS.
The average life of a gay man is 20 years shorter.


Is women having Anal sex with men also harmful?
If blood banks do not accept donations from gay men they are homophobes themselves, they can test for diseases.
Want to risk the life of a child on what will get by from human error when you can just say no to an entire risk group?
Hahaha, where do you find your proof Fred? Show me something to prove that gay men live 20 years shorter?


http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/jun/05060606.html



"But they are increasingly teaching that homosexuality is the same as heterosexual behaviour. “It certainly isn’t,” said Cameron. “Here we have homosexual activity, which, literally, is much worse than smoking,” and yet the schools continue to teach that it is normative and safe behaviour.

Cameron dismissed accusations of bias on account of his pro-life, pro-family beliefs"


CHRISTIAN RESEARCH.

What do you expect. Anything to push their own agenda.

In the UK anyone that said homosexuality was more dangerous than smoking would be laughed into the English Channel.

It just does to show what nutters there are out there.
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Postby Fred75 on Tue May 06, 2008 3:21 pm

The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Sorry to burst you bubble here... but men having sex with men IS harmful.
It killed thousands of hemophiliacs and is the reason blood banks do not accept blood from gay men!
THEIR LIFESTYLE KILLS.
The average life of a gay man is 20 years shorter.


Is women having Anal sex with men also harmful?
If blood banks do not accept donations from gay men they are homophobes themselves, they can test for diseases.
Want to risk the life of a child on what will get by from human error when you can just say no to an entire risk group?
Hahaha, where do you find your proof Fred? Show me something to prove that gay men live 20 years shorter?


http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/jun/05060606.html



"But they are increasingly teaching that homosexuality is the same as heterosexual behaviour. “It certainly isn’t,” said Cameron. “Here we have homosexual activity, which, literally, is much worse than smoking,” and yet the schools continue to teach that it is normative and safe behaviour.

Cameron dismissed accusations of bias on account of his pro-life, pro-family beliefs"


CHRISTIAN RESEARCH.

What do you expect. Anything to push their own agenda.

In the UK anyone that said homosexuality was more dangerous than smoking would be laughed into the English Channel.

It just does to show what nutters there are out there.


STUDY OBJECTIVE: To study the effect of long-term smoking on all-cause and cause-specific mortality, and to estimate the effects of cigarette and cigar or pipe smoking on life expectancy. DESIGN: A long-term prospective cohort study. SETTING: Zutphen, The Netherlands. PARTICIPANTS: 1373 men from the Zutphen Study, born between 1900 and 1920 and studied between 1960 and 2000. MEASUREMENTS: Hazard ratios for the type of smoking, amount and duration of cigarette smoking, obtained from a time-dependent Cox regression model. Absolute health effects of smoking are expressed as differences in life expectancy and the number of disease-free years of life. MAIN RESULTS: Duration of cigarette smoking was strongly associated with mortality from cardiovascular disease, lung cancer and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, whereas both the number of cigarettes smoked as well as duration of cigarette smoking were strongly associated with all-cause mortality. Average cigarette smoking reduced the total life expectancy by 6.8 years, whereas heavy cigarette smoking reduced the total life expectancy by 8.8 years. The number of total life-years lost due to cigar or pipe smoking was 4.7 years. Moreover, cigarette smoking reduced the number of disease-free life-years by 5.8 years, and cigar or pipe smoking by 5.2 years. Stopping cigarette smoking at age 40 increased the life expectancy by 4.6 years, while the number of disease-free life-years was increased by 3.0 years. CONCLUSIONS: Cigar or pipe smoking reduces life expectancy to a lesser extent than cigarette smoking. Both the number of cigarettes smoked and duration of smoking are strongly associated with mortality risk and the number of life-years lost. Stopping smoking after age 40 has major health benefits.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17400948


Looks to me like being another mans goo swallowing bitch is riskier!!!!
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Postby The Colonel on Tue May 06, 2008 3:35 pm

You couldn't tell your arse from your head.
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Postby Sharon den Adel on Wed May 07, 2008 5:25 am

The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Sorry to burst you bubble here... but men having sex with men IS harmful.
It killed thousands of hemophiliacs and is the reason blood banks do not accept blood from gay men!
THEIR LIFESTYLE KILLS.
The average life of a gay man is 20 years shorter.


Is women having Anal sex with men also harmful?
If blood banks do not accept donations from gay men they are homophobes themselves, they can test for diseases.
Want to risk the life of a child on what will get by from human error when you can just say no to an entire risk group?
Hahaha, where do you find your proof Fred? Show me something to prove that gay men live 20 years shorter?


http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/jun/05060606.html



"But they are increasingly teaching that homosexuality is the same as heterosexual behaviour. “It certainly isn’t,” said Cameron. “Here we have homosexual activity, which, literally, is much worse than smoking,” and yet the schools continue to teach that it is normative and safe behaviour.

Cameron dismissed accusations of bias on account of his pro-life, pro-family beliefs"


CHRISTIAN RESEARCH.

What do you expect. Anything to push their own agenda.

In the UK anyone that said homosexuality was more dangerous than smoking would be laughed into the English Channel.

It just does to show what nutters there are out there.


I myself would not believe anything, including statistics, that Christians came out with against homosexualty, because as you said, they have an agenda and are biased.
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Postby Sharon den Adel on Wed May 07, 2008 5:27 am

Fred75 wrote:Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.


How do people get cancer from blood transfusions, Fred? The blood people are meant to test the blood after donation to ensure it is healthy. If they can't do that then they are not doing their jobs properly.
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Postby Fred75 on Wed May 07, 2008 2:41 pm

Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.


How do people get cancer from blood transfusions, Fred? The blood people are meant to test the blood after donation to ensure it is healthy. If they can't do that then they are not doing their jobs properly.


Your right I'm wrong.
I had forgotten we life in a perfect world where there are no mistakes and human error.

Yes... lets let let gay men doing the riskiest of all sexual acts donate blood because the blood banks are infallible.
:roll:
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Postby The Colonel on Wed May 07, 2008 2:55 pm

Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.


How do people get cancer from blood transfusions, Fred? The blood people are meant to test the blood after donation to ensure it is healthy. If they can't do that then they are not doing their jobs properly.


Your right I'm wrong.
I had forgotten we life in a perfect world where there are no mistakes and human error.

Yes... lets let let gay men doing the riskiest of all sexual acts donate blood because the blood banks are infallible.
:roll:


Heterosexual men can have Anal sex with women, yet they are allowed to donate blood.

You are an idiot.
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Postby Fred75 on Wed May 07, 2008 3:01 pm

The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.


How do people get cancer from blood transfusions, Fred? The blood people are meant to test the blood after donation to ensure it is healthy. If they can't do that then they are not doing their jobs properly.


Your right I'm wrong.
I had forgotten we life in a perfect world where there are no mistakes and human error.

Yes... lets let let gay men doing the riskiest of all sexual acts donate blood because the blood banks are infallible.
:roll:


Heterosexual men can have Anal sex with women, yet they are allowed to donate blood.

You are an idiot.


So then by your logic street walking crack WH0RES should be equally acceptable?
Right?
Because lifestyle means nothing right?
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Postby The Colonel on Wed May 07, 2008 3:57 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.


How do people get cancer from blood transfusions, Fred? The blood people are meant to test the blood after donation to ensure it is healthy. If they can't do that then they are not doing their jobs properly.


Your right I'm wrong.
I had forgotten we life in a perfect world where there are no mistakes and human error.

Yes... lets let let gay men doing the riskiest of all sexual acts donate blood because the blood banks are infallible.
:roll:


Heterosexual men can have Anal sex with women, yet they are allowed to donate blood.

You are an idiot.


So then by your logic street walking crack WH0RES should be equally acceptable?
Right?
Because lifestyle means nothing right?


A gay man is not a lady unless he is a rent boy.

No comparison.
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Postby Fred75 on Wed May 07, 2008 4:12 pm

The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.


How do people get cancer from blood transfusions, Fred? The blood people are meant to test the blood after donation to ensure it is healthy. If they can't do that then they are not doing their jobs properly.


Your right I'm wrong.
I had forgotten we life in a perfect world where there are no mistakes and human error.

Yes... lets let let gay men doing the riskiest of all sexual acts donate blood because the blood banks are infallible.
:roll:


Heterosexual men can have Anal sex with women, yet they are allowed to donate blood.

You are an idiot.


So then by your logic street walking crack WH0RES should be equally acceptable?
Right?
Because lifestyle means nothing right?


A gay man is not a lady unless he is a rent boy.

No comparison.


But he IS.
Statistically he is just as UNACCEPTABLE as a crack Ho!

And until men that have sex with men doesn't account for half+ all the aids and STD transmissions... Blood banks have every right to keep those fudge packers form donating!
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Postby The Colonel on Wed May 07, 2008 4:32 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Sharon den Adel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Smoking is bad. I agree.
But I have yet to hear about anyone getting cancer form blood transfusions or sex with smokers.


How do people get cancer from blood transfusions, Fred? The blood people are meant to test the blood after donation to ensure it is healthy. If they can't do that then they are not doing their jobs properly.


Your right I'm wrong.
I had forgotten we life in a perfect world where there are no mistakes and human error.

Yes... lets let let gay men doing the riskiest of all sexual acts donate blood because the blood banks are infallible.
:roll:


Heterosexual men can have Anal sex with women, yet they are allowed to donate blood.

You are an idiot.


So then by your logic street walking crack WH0RES should be equally acceptable?
Right?
Because lifestyle means nothing right?


A gay man is not a lady unless he is a rent boy.

No comparison.


But he IS.
Statistically he is just as UNACCEPTABLE as a crack Ho!

And until men that have sex with men doesn't account for half+ all the aids and STD transmissions... Blood banks have every right to keep those fudge packers form donating!


It's because gay men aren't given proper sex education at school.
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Postby Fred75 on Wed May 07, 2008 4:46 pm

The Colonel wrote:
It's because gay men aren't given proper sex education at school.


Right! :roll:
The same liberal sex education that has given 50% of black girls and a quarter of the white ones an STD.

The same sex ed that has 25% of all pregnancies getting sucked out and washed down the sink.

Right... Godless morals are the answer! :roll:
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Postby The Colonel on Wed May 07, 2008 4:50 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
It's because gay men aren't given proper sex education at school.


Right! :roll:
The same liberal sex education that has given 50% of black girls and a quarter of the white ones an STD.

The same sex ed that has 25% of all pregnancies getting sucked out and washed down the sink.

Right... Godless morals are the answer! :roll:


If you don't teach people about safe sex they will have babies and get STD's.

Safe sex is not well taught due to religious morals that hark on about values such as sex inside marriage etc.

Teens aren't interested in that.

It's the same issue in Africa. The churches could reduce the rates vastly if they'd sanction condoms - but the won't.

RELIGION IS TO BLAME AGAIN!
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