Too old to wear knee socks to school?

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby Rebman on Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:49 pm

Members and guests posting in this thread should realise that the Colonel is a proven pathological liar, who has been caught out lying in numerous threads on the FF forums ranging in subject from the Armed Forces (where I first crossed paths with him), Religion, etc. and most particularly Nappies/Diapers (where he has posted many hundreds of times with his offensive slurs and lies).

The “McMum” person that he refers to posted as a guest in the “Still in nappies” thread. She stated that she had a disabled teenage son who had an underdeveloped bladder and still needed nappies at night. The Colonel appeared (as he has now done in this thread) and started calling the mothers who were posting in the thread ‘perverts’. McMum and another woman (a member ‘Sooz’) stood up to the Colonel’s offensive slurs, and in return the Colonel stated that he knew that they were in fact the same person, as admin had told him so, and that this person was an AB/DL with Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, who forced her child to wear a nappy.

A member checked with admin and found that the Colonel had not been told that the two women were the same person. This member then accused the Colonel of lying, to which the Colonel replied that he only lied to trolls and that this didn’t count as lying (it seems that the Colonel’s definition of a troll is anyone who disagrees with him). In another thread the Colonel continued his offensive slurs against these two women, until another member challenged him:-

Member ‘it'sme’ wrote:-
“Secondly, can you post conclusive proof that a) McMum and Sooz are the same person and b) they are forcing a child to wear nappies for no medical reason?”

The Colonel replied:-
I know that I am correct. Even if I could prove it, who would listen?


So the Colonel had no proof whatsoever, despite insisting that what he had said was proven fact (another of his pathological lies).

More recently the Colonel wrote in the ‘Adult Baby’ thread:-
I challenged a guest here once, on a seemingly innocent thread. Her name was McMum - she is infamous here. She was an AB/DL and was FORCING her son into nappies and claiming he needed them (he was seven). She had Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, and has since been arrested and the child taken into care.


I then asked him what evidence he had that:-
1. McMum was an AB/DL (Adult Baby/Diaper Lover).
2. McMum had Munchausen’s Syndrome by Proxy.
3. McMum forced her son into nappies for no medical reason.
4. McMum had been arrested.
5. McMum’s son had been taken into care.
The Colonel could not provide a scrap of sensible evidence for any of these assertions, so he then resorted to hurling insults at me, saying that I was a troll and should be banned. It would seem that anyone who exposes the Colonel’s lies is labelled a troll and should be banned. He has made a list of such members and guests, and lo and behold I am on it (together with twenty others), where I am listed as being an alias of ‘myron myron’ (which I am not).

Beware, the Colonel tries to get threads closed down if their contents happen to offend him, even if they do not break any of the FF rules. The “Still in nappies” thread (referred to above) was finally moved from the ‘parenting’ section to the ‘stupid posts’ section after the Colonel had swamped it by posting hundreds of slur posts in it, turning it into an absurd slanging match. He seems to have started the very same tactics in this thread. He has already started to accuse members and guests of being the same person and being perverts and paedophiles, i.e. the very same tactics he used in the ‘nappy’ threads. As far as I can see, he has no evidence that the members or guests posting here are perverts or paedophiles, but such baseless accusations are part of his standard modus operandi, whenever he wants to get a thread closed down to satisfy his perverted ego.

I apologise for butting into your thread, but I think the above needed to be said before the Colonel does the same with this thread that he did with the “Still in nappies” thread and the “Protective pants” thread in the Health section. He openly admitted to wanting to destroy both of these threads, and seemed to gain some perverted pleasure in doing so:-

On Sept 13, 2007, the Colonel wrote in the ‘Still in Nappies’ thread:-
I love the way I destroyed this thread, now I can move onto the one in the health section!


And also on Sept 13, 2007 in the same thread:-
As soon as I am in control of this thread.
You didn’t actually think I was sane did you?

No Colonel, we most certainly did not think you were sane.

I have referred to the Colonel as “Colonel Nappy Thread Troll”. It now appears that he is becoming “Colonel Knee Socks Thread Troll”. Be warned!

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby welshskoolgirl on Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:29 pm

Hi Mary

Thanks for your reply, you are right that i'm in yr 11 and my sister in yr 12, whilst knee socks are not required for 6th formers, a lot of girls still wear them.

I always wear white overknee socks out of school but my sister doesn't as often as me :D

Every school in my "home" town (was born in wales, hence the name :P ) the girls all wear knee/overknee socks in either black or white. there must be about 3 or 4 schools at least.

hope to hear from you again



mary24 wrote:Hi Welshskoolgirl,

Nice to see you here and thanks for your input.

I was aware that there tended to be an “area” divide on this topic with some area’s heavily favoring both skirts and knee socks and others have almost excluded them for girls over about 11/12.

The North West of England from Manchester/Merseyside up to the Scottish border seems to be the main area in the UK where knee socks seem to be favoured. I worked in the NW for a while about 10 years ago and remember seeing most school girls in knee socks at that time and many must have been 15/16 years of age.

I take it that you must be in year 11 and your sister in year 12. Whilst it wasn’t unusual to see year 11 in knee socks it’s quite unusual for year 12 students to wear them.

Can I ask, are knee socks required for 6th formers?

Do you and your sister wear knee socks out of school as well?

Is your school unusual in your area to require all girls to wear white knee socks?

Look forward to hearing from you,

Mary

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby Hadith on Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:42 pm

mary24 = mcmum

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby Guest on Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:43 pm

The Colonel wrote:
azraelle wrote:Well, I can certainly see why you have so many posts Colonel. You're a brave one to b*tch about annoying behavior on this forum Colonel. You should be banned for spamming this topic. One announcement of "I spy a troll" ought to be enough, don't you think, FemaleAdmin???


By the way -

I forgot to add - this person sounds a lot like McMum - who caused massive trouble here a long time ago. I was a newbie at the time.

She/he was another pervert/paedophile.

All the Admins have to do is check the IP's of these "members and guests" and they will find they all match! That is why the Admins are not responding to his/her "complaint", because they know I'm correct.

This section is about PARENTING - NOT PERVERSIONS.

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby The Colonel on Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:30 pm

May the force be with you this holiday. ImageImage
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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby Ivan Diederhoff on Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:02 am

The Colonel wrote:May the force be with you this holiday. ImageImage


Image Image Much to learn, you still have, my old padawan.... Image
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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby Ivan Diederhoff on Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:25 am

The Colonel wrote::lol:

Your emoticons are so much better than mine! :(


I'll get you the URL where I go. Tons of cool smilies!
I drive by the homeless sleeping in the cold, dark street, like bodies in an open grave. Underneath the broken old neon sign that used to read "Jesus Saves." It just makes me wonder, why so many lose and so few win.

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby skirtlover on Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:41 pm

An interesting thread relating to a subject that was pertinent during my schooldays back in the late 70's and early 80's and yet apparently remains surprisingly relevant even today. I went to a mixed sex boarding school and like pretty much all schools in those days, trousers were strictly for the boys when it came to uniform. In winter girls were obliged to wear grey knee length socks up until the 3rd form, but from the 4th form onwards they were permitted to wear tights or above the knee socks. However, in summer all the girls, including 6th formers, had to wear white knee length socks. Some girls did exercise their option to wear tights all through the winter, but most contined to wear socks even into their 6th form, including school prefects and I don't recall hearing too many gripes about it being childish to wear knee socks.

As a general observation I think that school uniform standards have deteriorated abominably since those days. I particularly hate the modern fad of letting girls wear a sweat shirt and trousers as a school uniform. It just looks so slubbornly! By contrast it is always refreshing to see girls from a school where blazers, collars and ties, skirts and even knee socks are still required and I can't help but think that imposing a higher standard of dress is likely to improve overall standards of discipline in a school. As for allowing girls to wear trousers to school, well it occurs to me that many girls these days will grow up in jeans and their grungy black school trousers and then graduate to androgynous trouser suits in the workplace without ever really exploring their femininity by dressing like a woman. I find that sad, but the feminists would doubtless disagree.

To return to the socks versus tights debate, I do recall living in SE London in the late 90's in close proximity to two schools, one CoE and one RC. Interestingly neither school allowed trousers and in 5 years I never saw a single girl from either school who was not wearing socks. I have to admit that I thought there was a certain elegant, egalitarian simplicity about a uniform policy that didn't allow any latitude when it came to trousers or nylon. As other contributors to this thread have noted, tights are a manifestation of maturity, whereas knee socks are associated with childhood, hence I do not think it unreasonable to keep a girl in long socks until she reaches the 6th form, whereupon she should be accorded the privilige of wearing hosiery that is more suited to her age. Applying this policy universally avoids the problems that arise when some girls feel stigmatised because they are dressed differently to their fellow pupils. In this respect, context is important. If a girl goes to a school where some or even all of her peers wear socks, than it is unlikely to be a problem for her, but I think it very unkind for a mother to force her daughter to be the only girl in her class who has to wear knee socks.

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Message for Mary24

Postby welshskoolgirl on Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:18 pm

Hi mary

sorry not posted before but problems with my internet!

bought 5 pairs of white overknee yesterday in peacocks ready for school

would love to chat to you more about socks etc (away from here and the colonel)

as i can't send you a pm - then email me at the following address and i'll get back to you.

hope to hear from you soon

welshskoolgirl

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby abigail83 on Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:21 pm

It is such a shame that such a selfish and rude person is trying to destroy this forum. He needs help but he will not get it here.

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby abigail83 on Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:24 pm

skirtlover wrote:An interesting thread relating to a subject that was pertinent during my schooldays back in the late 70's and early 80's and yet apparently remains surprisingly relevant even today. I went to a mixed sex boarding school and like pretty much all schools in those days, trousers were strictly for the boys when it came to uniform. In winter girls were obliged to wear grey knee length socks up until the 3rd form, but from the 4th form onwards they were permitted to wear <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> or above the knee socks. However, in summer all the girls, including 6th formers, had to wear white knee length socks. Some girls did exercise their option to wear <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> all through the winter, but most contined to wear socks even into their 6th form, including school prefects and I don't recall hearing too many gripes about it being childish to wear knee socks.

As a general observation I think that school uniform standards have deteriorated abominably since those days. I particularly hate the modern fad of letting girls wear a sweat shirt and trousers as a school uniform. It just looks so slubbornly! By contrast it is always refreshing to see girls from a school where blazers, collars and ties, skirts and even knee socks are still required and I can't help but think that imposing a higher standard of dress is likely to improve overall standards of discipline in a school. As for allowing girls to wear trousers to school, well it occurs to me that many girls these days will grow up in jeans and their grungy black school trousers and then graduate to androgynous trouser suits in the workplace without ever really exploring their femininity by dressing like a woman. I find that sad, but the feminists would doubtless disagree.

To return to the socks versus <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> debate, I do recall living in SE London in the late 90's in close proximity to two schools, one CoE and one RC. Interestingly neither school allowed trousers and in 5 years I never saw a single girl from either school who was not wearing socks. I have to admit that I thought there was a certain elegant, egalitarian simplicity about a uniform policy that didn't allow any latitude when it came to trousers or <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>nylon</A>. As other contributors to this thread have noted, <A HREF='http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_52' target='_blank'>tights</A> are a manifestation of maturity, whereas knee socks are associated with childhood, hence I do not think it unreasonable to keep a girl in long socks until she reaches the 6th form, whereupon she should be accorded the privilige of wearing hosiery that is more suited to her age. Applying this policy universally avoids the problems that arise when some girls feel stigmatised because they are dressed differently to their fellow pupils. In this respect, context is important. If a girl goes to a school where some or even all of her peers wear socks, than it is unlikely to be a problem for her, but I think it very unkind for a mother to force her daughter to be the only girl in her class who has to wear knee socks.


Completely agree with this. In fact I think white knee socks look far nicer with schoolgirl uniform than tights and it would be lovely to see girls wearing them until 16 or 17.

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Re: Message for Mary24

Postby abigail83 on Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:25 pm

welshskoolgirl wrote:Hi mary

sorry not posted before but problems with my internet!

bought 5 pairs of white overknee yesterday in peacocks ready for school

would love to chat to you more about socks etc (away from here and the colonel)

as i can't send you a pm - then email me at the following address and i'll get back to you.

M8R-meoh69@mailinator.com

hope to hear from you soon

welshskoolgirl


Good for you

Abigail

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby welshskoolgirl on Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:50 pm

Hi Abigail

Thanks for the reply, please feel free to email me as well

would love to chat to u also

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby Mary24 on Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:38 pm

Still posting pictures of battered women Colon-el,

"She didn't know when to shut up...............Do You?"

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Re: Too old to wear knee socks to school?

Postby Mary24 on Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:24 pm

Oh, Colonel, I'm back, maybe under a different name??????

Who do you know who's gay?

Lots of love

Mary

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