Too old to wear knee socks to school?

[The Colonel]

[Mary24]

Rebman has presented all the proof that is need to show that the colonel is a serial liar and refuses to answer the PROOF posted against him. Rebman is an honest man who is clearly intelligent unlike the clampits colonel & Ivan the terrible.

The term I have always used for the Colonel is ‘pathological liar’.

They think I will go away, but I won't............

To remind the colonel, who puts on such a macho persona but breeds camp children. To quote:-

Coming out to family thread Tues Dec 3oth 9:33pm

My second son is gay. He came out to us when he was 15. (He's almost 17 now).

SO COME ON BIG BOY, ARE YOU HARBORING GAYS IN YOUR HOUSE??

I don’t know for certain whether this post was from Mary24, as it is unsigned, but if it was, then I definitely do not condone it. I fully understand that Mary24 must feel great anger towards the Colonel after his unwarranted libellous attack on her, but I must emphasise that posting the above comments is to descend to his level, which is inexcusable.

Rebman,

Yes that post was me.

I have tried reasoning with these two, you can't get anything but abuse from them,
I have tried ignoring them, they just abuse the board,

As you can now attest, they will not engage with the facts you have posted either because they are too dim witted to understand you very well cased argument or they choose to ignore it because they understand your post completely shoots them out of the water and they would otherwise have to admit they are wrong.

Lets face it, they are two very small men (I use that term in it biological sense only) who couldn't admit they were wrong if the whole world told them in unison.

Therefore, unfortunately, you have to engage on their level because the poor darlings couldn't get close to our level.

Even in that question, he still couldn't give a straight answer

Mary24

[Ivan Diederhoff]

I have tried reasoning with these two, you can't get anything but abuse from them,
I have tried ignoring them, they just abuse the board,

As you can now attest, they will not engage with the facts you have posted either because they are too dim witted to understand you very well cased argument or they choose to ignore it because they understand your post completely shoots them out of the water and they would otherwise have to admit they are wrong.

Lets face it, they are two very small men (I use that term in it biological sense only) who couldn't admit they were wrong if the whole world told them in unison.

Therefore, unfortunately, you have to engage on their level because the poor darlings couldn't get close to our level.

Even in that question, he still couldn't give a straight answer

Mary24

Close to your level, Mary? I can't stoop that low! You haven't engaged reasonably or factually at all. You go the way all trolls go, attacks. You can dish but you can't take. I don't see giving you a dose of your own medicine abusive. It only becomes abusive when a whiney little crybaby can't take the heat. Obviously, you can't take the heat.

You haven't tried ignoring, you have antagonized and instigated every response. So spare everyone your pity party. You got banned for a reason.

Drop it, it's over. Ancient history at this point.

[Captain]

I think rebman is spot on with his summing up of the colonel.

[Rebman]

You haven't engaged reasonably or factually at all.

Has the Colonel engaged reasonably or factually? Is the libellous accusation of paedophilia reasonable? Is the accusation of forcing girls to wear punishment uniforms factual? No they are not. Who started the unreasonable and non-factual engagement? Surprise! Surprise! It was the Colonel.

You can dish but you can't take.

Are you sure you aren’t talking about the Colonel here? After all, the Colonel can dish out disgusting libellous accusations against Mary24, but he can’t take what she dishes out in return, so he runs crying to ‘mummy’ Admin.

You should be more careful in choosing your analogies now that the Colonel has appointed you as his chief lap-dog, i.e. his number 2 in the “Ministry”.

[Captain]

As much as I personally dislike the colonel I hope he returns to the board and I hope the rumors that the ministry are gone are untrue.

No one should be run off a forum no matter how muh of an ass they are. He was ok once upon a time he just got carried away with his fantasyland and couldn't keep up with his lies.

[Ivan Diederhoff]

You haven't engaged reasonably or factually at all.

Has the Colonel engaged reasonably or factually? Is the libellous accusation of paedophilia reasonable? Is the accusation of forcing girls to wear punishment uniforms factual? No they are not. Who started the unreasonable and non-factual engagement? Surprise! Surprise! It was the Colonel.

You can dish but you can't take.

Are you sure you aren’t talking about the Colonel here? After all, the Colonel can dish out disgusting libellous accusations against Mary24, but he can’t take what she dishes out in return, so he runs crying to ‘mummy’ Admin.

You should be more careful in choosing your analogies now that the Colonel has appointed you as his chief lap-dog, i.e. his number 2 in the “Ministry”.

The Ministry is gone, Rebman. If colonel were here, he would tell you I never stepped forward to be in the leadership of the group. It was his. He felt that if he were unable to check it for any period of time, there should be someone to monitor it. That person got banned. It was only a week after that, that all this bologna about Ministry and refuge started getting out of hand.

Why are you answering FOR Mary? You are pretty fast to use the label of lapdog on me, so I feel it befitting you earn it as well. Mary hasn't a had problem answering for herself in the past, delusional as it was.

[Rebman]

The Ministry is gone, Rebman. If colonel were here, he would tell you I never stepped forward to be in the leadership of the group. It was his. He felt that if he were unable to check it for any period of time, there should be someone to monitor it. That person got banned. It was only a week after that, that all this bologna about Ministry and refuge started getting out of hand.

What came out into the open about Ministry merely reinforced my opinion that the Colonel is a delusional lying control freak with megalomaniac aspirations. Those who attached themselves to the group merely demonstrated their own character weaknesses and insecurities, thinking that if they got behind someone they perceived as being powerful, some of that power may rub off on them. Ex-pals of the Colonel are deserting him in droves now that they realise just what a nutter and liar he really is (it took them long enough). It would appear that you choose to go down with the sinking ship, rather than abandon a totally corrupt lost cause.

Why are you answering FOR Mary? You are pretty fast to use the label of lapdog on me, so I feel it befitting you earn it as well. Mary hasn't a had problem answering for herself in the past, delusional as it was.

I answer for no one but myself (unlike you). When I see hypocrisy, such as you demonstrated in your previous post, in saying that Mary24 could give but not take, I will point out that hypocrisy. I notice that as usual you are unable to refute what I stated, because what I said was correct and can be checked from the record of postings. It is the Colonel who gives but cannot take.

[Ivan Diederhoff]

Rebman, a post directed to Mary24, calling her by name, doesn't require your response, not until she has at least made one! You can offer up your opinion on her response, as well as anything I said, that's fine. There is nothing you have said I feel I need to refute. Yes, I consider Colonel a friend. Yes I speak to him on the board as well as through email. Yes I was invited to participate in his group. Nothing wrong with that. I think you are mistaken about a great number of things, but I don't know if you have other board identities. Like I said, I don't have a beef with you per se. But if you want to call me a lapdog, just because I associate with someone you don't care for, you might not want to throw around the hypocrite, because you do same with someone I don't much care for.

I don't care about the timing of Mary and Colonel before the wife beater thing. I saw that, and didn't like it. The fact Mary didn't get on my ass about the pictures I posted showed it wasn't the issue of abuse, it was who posted it. That is an attack, pure and simple. I don't hit women, I think if a woman were to attack a man, there are ways of stopping it without resorting to hitting them. That is not to say, after reading some of the insane comments women have made here, I don't understand why it happens! Some guys are just NOT going to tolerate it, and feel if a woman has it in her to fight like a man, she can get hit like one, too! I think that thought pattern illustrates best, why JFM and some of the other areas where you find the heated battle of the sexes gets crazy.

At any rate, this issue is kind of beating a dead horse. Mary has chosen not to respond, and that's fine. Maybe she, too, thinks this is getting out of hand. But I don't answer for Colonel, don't you answer for her, and the board is big enough for all of us to enjoy.

[The Colonel]

The Ministry is gone, Rebman. If colonel were here, he would tell you I never stepped forward to be in the leadership of the group. It was his. He felt that if he were unable to check it for any period of time, there should be someone to monitor it. That person got banned. It was only a week after that, that all this bologna about Ministry and refuge started getting out of hand.

What came out into the open about Ministry merely reinforced my opinion that the Colonel is a delusional lying control freak with megalomaniac aspirations. Those who attached themselves to the group merely demonstrated their own character weaknesses and insecurities, thinking that if they got behind someone they perceived as being powerful, some of that power may rub off on them. Ex-pals of the Colonel are deserting him in droves now that they realise just what a nutter and liar he really is (it took them long enough). It would appear that you choose to go down with the sinking ship, rather than abandon a totally corrupt lost cause.

What was "exposed" from my group was nothing bad whatsoever.

There were no lies, and no control. Every member of the group knows that. Plus, a lot of non-members (e.g. Zia) know that to be the case. As for "members deserting me" - not one of them actually has. People are free to have their own minds and opinions - and that's why my group worked so well.

If you want a lying, controling group - you want the Refuge.

I also know that you are a fake account for a Refuge member/members.

Why are you answering FOR Mary? You are pretty fast to use the label of lapdog on me, so I feel it befitting you earn it as well. Mary hasn't a had problem answering for herself in the past, delusional as it was.

I answer for no one but myself (unlike you). When I see hypocrisy, such as you demonstrated in your previous post, in saying that Mary24 could give but not take, I will point out that hypocrisy. I notice that as usual you are unable to refute what I stated, because what I said was correct and can be checked from the record of postings. It is the Colonel who gives but cannot take.

I dished out nothing . . .

[Rebman]

I don't care about the timing of Mary and Colonel before the wife beater thing. I saw that, and didn't like it.

So if the Colonel threw a brick at me (while you selected to close your eyes) and I threw one back at him (which you selectively chose to see), then it would be all my fault would it? Sorry, you haven’t convinced me that you are anything but the Colonel’s lap-dog.

[Rebman]

What was "exposed" from my group was nothing bad whatsoever.

Let me see now, there was a long list of rules and regulations for the Ministry, leaving it in no doubt that the Colonel was the absolute ruler (dictator). Was the Ministry your fantasy substitute for your craving to take over power in the UK, which you have expressed so many times in these forums? By the way, I felt honoured that my name was on your list of FF members who would never be allowed to join. LOL

There were no lies, and no control.

As long as every member knew his place, i.e. subservient to the Colonel (dictator).

As for "members deserting me" - not one of them actually has.

Coolman?

People are free to have their own minds and opinions - and that's why my group worked so well.

As long as those opinions agreed with your opinions. It appears that FranFran’s opinions didn’t agree with yours. Your group worked so well that you closed it down.

If you want a lying, controling group - you want the Refuge.

Oh Diddums, did you throw your rattle out of the pram and resign because the other members wouldn’t let you take absolute control?

I also know that you are a fake account for a Refuge member/members.

Your paranoia knows no bounds. I have no interest in joining any ‘secret society’. So which Refuge member(s) am I supposed to be? Come on, we could all do with a good laugh.

I dished out nothing . . .

So are you trying to convince us that you never accused Mary24 of being a paedophile who forced girls to wear school uniforms? Surely you can remember, it was all in your posts that Admin deleted because they were so offensive and unjustified. You’re not suffering from selective memory loss again, are you Colonel (dictator)?

[Ivan Diederhoff]

I don't care about the timing of Mary and Colonel before the wife beater thing. I saw that, and didn't like it.

So if the Colonel threw a brick at me (while you selected to close your eyes) and I threw one back at him (which you selectively chose to see), then it would be all my fault would it? Sorry, you haven’t convinced me that you are anything but the Colonel’s lap-dog.

So be it, Mary's lap dog!

[Rebman]

I don't care about the timing of Mary and Colonel before the wife beater thing. I saw that, and didn't like it.

So if the Colonel threw a brick at me (while you selected to close your eyes) and I threw one back at him (which you selectively chose to see), then it would be all my fault would it? Sorry, you haven’t convinced me that you are anything but the Colonel’s lap-dog.

So be it, Mary's lap dog!

I wonder why Ivan the lap-dog is never able to answer my questions. LOL

[The Colonel]

What was "exposed" from my group was nothing bad whatsoever.

Let me see now, there was a long list of rules and regulations for the Ministry, leaving it in no doubt that the Colonel was the absolute ruler (dictator).

It's my group. Anyway, we had an elected Number 2.

Was the Ministry your fantasy substitute for your craving to take over power in the UK, which you have expressed so many times in these forums?

No.

By the way, I felt honoured that my name was on your list of FF members who would never be allowed to join. LOL

That's the rules - no trolls.

There were no lies, and no control.

As long as every member knew his place, i.e. subservient to the Colonel (dictator).

Lies!

As for "members deserting me" - not one of them actually has.

Coolman?

He was a plant for the Refuge. He cannot be classified as a member in the true sense of the word. He was never "with" the group, when he joined he was against us (without reason) so he couldn't "desert".

People are free to have their own minds and opinions - and that's why my group worked so well.

As long as those opinions agreed with your opinions. It appears that FranFran’s opinions didn’t agree with yours. Your group worked so well that you closed it down.

Fran and I agree on many many things. Our politics are similar. We differ on one issue - but that is no huge issue. I differ with Ivan on many positions. I have no issue with Fran - and her "banning" was a lie.

I closed the Ministry down for a while in response to Judge's investigations. It was the right thing to do.

If you want a lying, controling group - you want the Refuge.

Oh Diddums, did you throw your rattle out of the pram and resign because the other members wouldn’t let you take absolute control?

Well . . . if I had of done . . . there would never have been any troll attacks on this forum. First against myron, then against Zia, and then against me.

I also know that you are a fake account for a Refuge member/members.

Your paranoia knows no bounds. I have no interest in joining any ‘secret society’. So which Refuge member(s) am I supposed to be? Come on, we could all do with a good laugh.

You are a fake account for an R member. You know it. Ivan knows it. Everyone knows it.

BTW - don't you mean shits and giggles?

I dished out nothing . . .

So are you trying to convince us that you never accused Mary24 of being a paedophile who forced girls to wear school uniforms? Surely you can remember, it was all in your posts that Admin deleted because they were so offensive and unjustified. You’re not suffering from selective memory loss again, are you Colonel (dictator)?

Mary24 wanted punishment uniforms. Check her posts.