Too old to wear knee socks to school?

[Ivan Diederhoff]

I wonder why Ivan the lap-dog is never able to answer my questions. LOL

You don't ask the right questions! You pat yourself on the back for some perceived act chivalry, that is merely one troll defending another. When you ask something relevant, and intelligent, I will answer it. Until then, keep the dueling banjos thing with Mary going!

LOL

[Mary24]

I have tried reasoning with these two, you can't get anything but abuse from them,
I have tried ignoring them, they just abuse the board,

As you can now attest, they will not engage with the facts you have posted either because they are too dim witted to understand you very well cased argument or they choose to ignore it because they understand your post completely shoots them out of the water and they would otherwise have to admit they are wrong.

Lets face it, they are two very small men (I use that term in it biological sense only) who couldn't admit they were wrong if the whole world told them in unison.

Therefore, unfortunately, you have to engage on their level because the poor darlings couldn't get close to our level.

Even in that question, he still couldn't give a straight answer

Mary24

Close to your level, Mary? I can't stoop that low! You haven't engaged reasonably or factually at all. You go the way all trolls go, attacks. You can dish but you can't take. I don't see giving you a dose of your own medicine abusive. It only becomes abusive when a whiney little crybaby can't take the heat. Obviously, you can't take the heat.

You haven't tried ignoring, you have antagonized and instigated every response. So spare everyone your pity party. You got banned for a reason.

Drop it, it's over. Ancient history at this point.

Ivan,

Sadly (????) you were not here from the start, If the colonel was not so paranoid and could confine himself to that which interests him rather than abusing those who were engaged in a discussion you would be aware of the facts.

As you will no doubt be aware the colonel couldn't take the heat and had to get me banned, he's failed but all my posts were deleted.

For your benefit only, I'll give you a brief resume.

The colonel came in bandying abuse at people and stated that parents who insisted their daughters wore knee socks where committing an offense against their human rights because it was humiliating and degrading treatment and was going to report them all.

When I stood up to him and pointed out that if parents couldn't have any control over their dress by insisting on what is reasonable school wear items which are appropriate to their age then they had no control at all.

I pointed out that "grounding" could them be considered "false imprisonment" and that all punishments or controls must in some way be a curtailment of liberty. Therefore parents have no control mechanisms and should just give up and let their children do what ever they want.

The colonel had no argument for that and then started his raine of abusive postings. At that point I joined the board and found a way to filter out his abuse and advised others to do the same. Basically, bullies like the colonel like all the kick back they get (for a while) and it would only encourage him.

He them littered the board with abusive postings accusing me of the following.

1) Attacking him - he severally and severely insulted me on numerous occasions long before I retaliated.

2) Accused me of being a pedophile on no evidence

3) Accused me of being a series of other people based on his paranoia

4) Accused me of insisting on punishment uniforms - something I had never done although I discussed the experiences of others who claimed to have been subjected to them (Winifred and Lorretta I believe) and I was sympathetic to them and in no way advocated punishment uniforms.

5) Accused me of something to do with nappies on another thread when I had never mentioned nappies and had at that time not been on any other thread other than this one.

6) Posting pictures of battered women which you have done as well. However, I did not respond to you as those pictures may well have been links rather than embedded pictures which I didn’t look at.

Having said that, that makes you every bit as bad as him because you clearly think that was acceptable. The colonel, caught out by his misdeed tried to back pedal claiming he though it was a picture of a “rocker”. That again is a blatant lie because the caption on it was “ THIS BITCH DIDN’T KNOW WHEN TO SHUT UP ……… DO YOU?” under a women with a very big black eye.

The strong likelihood that the colonel is a wife beater comes from

a) The fact he would post a picture which clearly advocates domestic abuse is OK
b) He had admitted he had beaten his wife to another member, a statement later retracted on the basis that he got abuse and then said he MIGHT have said something different, no posting of the original PM was forthcoming to prove that he hadn’t said that. Its more likely in my opinion that the original accusation was likely to be correct but the poster couldn’t definitively remember EXACTLY what was said and was bullied into a form of retraction
c) Nobody on any board I have been on issues unprovoked attacks like the Colonel and his manner of dealing with people has a very bullying tone characteristic of a bully and wife beater
d) No apology was ever issued for that posting.

On top of all this, Rebman has systematically shown that the colonel lies and has posted the evidence with his posts, something I’m not surprised the colonel ignores because he knows it true, after all, all the evidence is clearly posted. Unable to refute this he relies on his trademark insults to deflect the attention from the overwhelming evidence against him.

More surprisingly, as his lap dog, you ignore it all as well. Rebman is in no way a lap dog as he posts entirely independently of me. I only joined FF before Christmas and could not have colluded with Rebman as he didn’t post on this thread until after all this “blew up”

Therefore Rebman is an entirely independent advocate for what I am saying, unlike yourself who has just dug yourself in the colonel’s corner and ignored all the evidence against him.

As Rebman will attest, I did try reasoning and ignoring him first before you, his lap dog turned up but perhaps you didn’t read back to acquaint yourself with the facts first.

Rebman was here before my posts were deleted and confirmed everything I have said.

Rebman has also shown, via posts from other discussions that colonel is a control freak (another trait of a women batterer) and abuses anyone who put the facts before him

I will not go away, I’ll be around for a long long time.



Mary24

[The Colonel]

The post I made (which was public, like this one) NOT a PM is still on the forum somewhere in Members Chit Chat.

I have searched through 100 pages to find it and sadly no success.

I don't know if the thread was removed, but I shouldn't think so. It must be there somewhere.

Go and have a look.

[Rebman]

You don't ask the right questions! You pat yourself on the back for some perceived act chivalry, that is merely one troll defending another. When you ask something relevant, and intelligent, I will answer it. Until then, keep the dueling banjos thing with Mary going!

The ‘right’ questions as far as you are concerned are the ones regarding the perceived wrong that Mary24 did to the Colonel. The causes of Mary24’s action are not the ‘right’ question for you because you would then have to answer for the Colonel’s vile and indefensible libellous accusations of paedophilia against Mary24. You are as bad as Fred with his biased polls, which you criticise in your self-righteous manner as being one-sided and unbalanced, thus revealing your own hypocrisy.

Whereas I have criticised Mary24 for the way she retaliated to the Colonel’s libellous allegations, you on the other hand are so much of a lap-dog to the Colonel that you believe he can do no wrong, and any evidence to the contrary must therefore be ignored as if it didn’t exist.

[unfommaaccich]

Interesting and communicative, but would make something more on this topic?

[Rebman]

Mary24 wanted punishment uniforms. Check her posts.

I have, and she didn’t. If she had, you would have been the first to post quoting what she wrote and condemning her for it, so don’t come the lie that it was all contained in her member posts that were deleted when she was banned from membership. I read her posts before they were deleted and she did not say she wanted punishment uniforms in any of them. In any case your ‘paedophilia’ attacks on her started before she became a member. Do you ever stop lying?

[Mary24]

Mary24 wanted punishment uniforms. Check her posts.

I have, and she didn’t. If she had, you would have been the first to post quoting what she wrote and condemning her for it, so don’t come the lie that it was all contained in her member posts that were deleted when she was banned from membership. I read her posts before they were deleted and she did not say she wanted punishment uniforms in any of them. In any case your ‘paedophilia’ attacks on her started before she became a member. Do you ever stop lying?

Rebman,

As usual, you are correct.

If Ivan the lapdog wishes to check for himself he can look back a few pages as my initial posts are still there from before I joined FF.

I only joined FF to shield out the Colonel's unprovoked attacks using the member "foe" facility that someone kindly told me about. Therefore, all my posts prior to my abuse are still there and will prove what Rebman and I have been saying all along:-

That the colonel makes up reality when the real world doesn't agree with him.

Doubtless as his lapdog, you'll still be blinded by the evidence or will the colonel and his "Malefirst" board chums wish to delete those as well?

Just like the Nazi's when it comes to getting rid of "history" that doesn't suit their purpose.

Mary24

[The Colonel]

Godwin's Law.

I win.

[Rebman]

Godwin's Law.

I win.

From Wikipedia:-

Godwin's Law itself can be abused, as a distraction or diversion, that fallaciously miscastes an opponent’s argument as hyperbole, especially if the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate. A 2005 “Reason” magazine article argued that Godwin's Law is often misused to ridicule even valid comparisons.

You have not ‘won’. You have merely attempted to create a diversion, because you cannot answer the points raised.

Where is your evidence that Mary24 advocated the use of punishment uniforms? You do not have any evidence, for the simple reason that there is none, and never has been any. Therefore your ‘paedophilia’ accusations are mallicious libel, pure and simple.

[The Colonel]

I'm not keeping this going!

Not because I can't answer but because nothing I say will make a blind bit of difference to you!

So therefore, I'm now here for the fun.

And Mary24's comparison is not valid.

It is funny you had to look it up though.

[Coanianoumpib]

Effexor (Venlafaxine) is an oral antidepressant drug.

[Rebman]

I'm not keeping this going!

Not because I can't answer but because nothing I say will make a blind bit of difference to you!

Try me and see. If you had been able to answer, you would have done so long ago.

And Mary24's comparison is not valid.

It is totally valid. You used the deletion of Mary24’s member posts in order to make the diversionary claim that she had advocated the use of punishment uniforms in them, thus giving you the excuse to accuse her of Paedophilia. Unfortunately for you, you forgot that your libellous accusations appeared BEFORE Mary24 became a member. Your excuse is therefore exposed as being a lie; just one of hundreds you have perpetrated since becoming a member here.

[Mary24]

Rebman,

Exactly!

He can't answer the issues put to him by posting a shred of evidence and every argument he ducks with a diversion.

The simple truth is that he couldn't understand the discussion so he bombed it. I'm pretty sure the Nazi's did the same with books they didn't understand.......and therefore insisted they were burned.

Why is it that every time we post a cogent fact based arguement with supporting evidence he diverts off up a blind ally and won't answer the specifc points posted to him?

Because he knows he's wrong

Mary24

[The Colonel]

I'm not keeping this going!

Not because I can't answer but because nothing I say will make a blind bit of difference to you!

Try me and see. If you had been able to answer, you would have done so long ago.

And Mary24's comparison is not valid.

It is totally valid. You used the deletion of Mary24’s member posts in order to make the diversionary claim that she had advocated the use of punishment uniforms in them, thus giving you the excuse to accuse her of Paedophilia. Unfortunately for you, you forgot that your libellous accusations appeared BEFORE Mary24 became a member. Your excuse is therefore exposed as being a lie; just one of hundreds you have perpetrated since becoming a member here.

She did post about them.

[Rebman]

She did post about them.

You have posted mentioning punishment uniforms. I have mentioned them. That is not the issue.

Where did Mary24 DEFEND or ADVOCATE the use of punishment uniforms? She did not. I think you owe her an apology for your libellous allegations of paedophilia.