Trend Alert: Men's Skirts

[KiltyCol]

MEN DO NOT WEAR SKIRTS


FACT

THE WORLD IS FLAT

FACT

The flat earth society fought hard to maintain their status quo, against people wanting to move forward.
I think that there still is a "Flat Earth Society", but I think it just exists for social get togethers, rather than a holder of a belief about the earth. I wouldn't risk wearing anything but very ordinary clothes there, though!

[Usquanigo]

The flat earth society fought hard to maintain their status quo, against people wanting to move forward.
I think that there still is a "Flat Earth Society", but I think it just exists for social get togethers, rather than a holder of a belief about the earth. I wouldn't risk wearing anything but very ordinary clothes there, though!

Giving men the right to choose skirts and kilts if they want, has got to be the way forward for men.

You keep saying this. So I will keep re-posting this until there is an answer -

KiltyCol, do you simply ignore my posts on the General Fashion board on the subject? It's not about "fashion freedom" at all. You want to wear something without legs in it, fine - but if you want it to gain acceptance, you need to have men wearing MEN'S CLOTHES. Is it really that hard to understand? And on that note, skirts are not, but kilts are. Again, pretty obvious point.

And "forward" to where, and from where exactly? That's a nonsensical comment.

[KiltyCol]

Well, the latest fashion seems to be loose flowery pattern cotton shorts for men. This has got to be way more effeminate than any skirt.

[Usquanigo]

Well, the latest fashion seems to be loose flowery pattern cotton shorts for men. This has got to be way more effeminate than any skirt.

Col, all I'm asking you is to explain your comment. Why is it so difficult?

You said several times that skirts - not kilts, but rather clothes actually made to fit the female form, are the "way forward" for men. So what exactly do you mean by that, and why do you feel that way.

I've not seen any flowery parrterns on anything other than perhaps bathing suits and they are not effeminate at all. And even if that was the case, it would not follow that skirts should be an end point. So what you are saying is all personal opinion. It's what you WANT to have happen, not what you think will happen.

So why? And just how do you think such a thing could ever be possible?

[Coco77]

Each to their own, i agree people should be able to wear what they feel comfortable in, although i probably wouldn't be too happy if my man embraced this trend

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[Usquanigo]

Each to their own, i agree people should be able to wear what they feel comfortable in, although i probably wouldn't be too happy if my man embraced this trend

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Hi Coco.

Would you care to elaborate as to why? It would be nice to hear from the woman's perspective on this. What is it that would turn you off in particular?

(you are quite normal btw, but it's always nice to discuss things )

[KiltyCol]

Well, the latest fashion seems to be loose flowery pattern cotton shorts for men. This has got to be way more effeminate than any skirt.

Col, all I'm asking you is to explain your comment. Why is it so difficult?

You said several times that skirts - not kilts, but rather clothes actually made to fit the female form, are the "way forward" for men. So what exactly do you mean by that, and why do you feel that way.

I've not seen any flowery parrterns on anything other than perhaps bathing suits and they are not effeminate at all. And even if that was the case, it would not follow that skirts should be an end point. So what you are saying is all personal opinion. It's what you WANT to have happen, not what you think will happen.

So why? And just how do you think such a thing could ever be possible?

The flowery shorts have been commented on by my wife and others who have seen several young men wear them in the street in warmer weather. I don't like them. As I said, they look effeminate, whereas not all skirts do!

[Usquanigo]

The flowery shorts have been commented on by my wife and others who have seen several young men wear them in the street in warmer weather. I don't like them. As I said, they look effeminate, whereas not all skirts do!

Ok, again, I've not seen these shorts you mention, but non-the-less, it's a fair point, there may well be guys wearing shorts that, at least in your view, appear more effeminate than certain "skirts".

But please bear in mind I am splitting the terms very specifically. If it is made for a man, it is not a skirt - chain maile (medieval), armor slats (Roman), toga's (Roman/Greek), Egyptian style, long or short Scottish style... those would all be called Kilts or "wraps". "Skirt" is something like a blouse, it's a piece of clothing custom tailored to both the physical form, as well as the sensibilities of women.

With that in mind, even if some skirt somehow didn't look effeminate in particular, remember, the male is still going into the women's section, buying women's clothes, and probably getting a specific charge out of it.

Now that brings me back to my question - how is this in any way "the way forward" for men? The existance of some particular pattern on shorts does not indicate a permenant trend, nor in any way relate to wearing of kilts, and even less-so, skirts. So please, why do you feel that "skirts" (the wearing of the female garments) are "the way forward for men"? (in otherwords, please don't repeat the same thing about these particular patterend shorts, dig deeper and provide a reasoned response)

[KiltyCol]

Casual kilts are reasonably practical, with cargo pockets and belt loops all round. Scottish kilts, although comfortable, don't have pockets, so you need a sporran, which gets in the way of the steering wheel if you are driving. I usually unclip the sporran for a long drive. I think that kilt manufacturer's could improve practical details, and reduce prices. A skirt with pockets that doesn't need a pin or a sporran is generally much cheaper than a kilt, as we have already discussed. Price is important to most people.

I still don't agree that skirts have to be exclusive to women, when women can freely choose to wear anything that is made for men. There is a discriminatory attitude there. Anything that ends any type of discrimination is likely to be a way forward.

If kilt manufacturer's could produce a more practical and budget price product, I think that it would sell better.
I have never wanted to look effeminate, but just enjoy a comfortable and practical garment without a crotch. My wife chose to buy me my two Scottish kilts and I chose the denim casual kilt. My wife certainly wouldn't want an effeminate looking husband, but does care that I can enjoy life and be comfortable. She does like to see men in kilts.

Quite a few people do regard kilts as a type of skirt, e.g. the lady who said "I like your skirt" meaning it sincerely as a compliment.

[Usquanigo]

Casual kilts are reasonably practical, with cargo pockets and belt loops all round. Scottish kilts, although comfortable, don't have pockets, so you need a sporran, which gets in the way of the steering wheel if you are driving. I usually unclip the sporran for a long drive. I think that kilt manufacturer's could improve practical details, and reduce prices. A skirt with pockets that doesn't need a pin or a sporran is generally much cheaper than a kilt, as we have already discussed. Price is important to most people.

I still don't agree that skirts have to be exclusive to women, when women can freely choose to wear anything that is made for men. There is a discriminatory attitude there. Anything that ends any type of discrimination is likely to be a way forward.

If kilt manufacturer's could produce a more practical and budget price product, I think that it would sell better.
I have never wanted to look effeminate, but just enjoy a comfortable and practical garment without a crotch. My wife chose to buy me my two Scottish kilts and I chose the denim casual kilt. My wife certainly wouldn't want an effeminate looking husband, but does care that I can enjoy life and be comfortable. She does like to see men in kilts.

Quite a few people do regard kilts as a type of skirt, e.g. the lady who said "I like your skirt" meaning it sincerely as a compliment.

That's a bit better. Thank you.

However... first point, discrimination is a fact of nature. Period. End of Statement. Fini! There is no getting around it. Every life form discriminates in some way or another, and the more intelligence that life form posesses, the more it discriminates. If you believe that some things are good and others are bad, then YOU discriminate.

This notion of ending any and all forms of discrimination is what the left wing is all about, this is why they are mentally stunted, they can't accept right or wrong, good or bad. So they strive to bring everything to an even plane, and attack that which is good, and elevate that which is evil.

So on that very basis, your comment is invalid.

People are people, and genders have certain things they are attracted to. This is partly from society, but largely from biology. This is not going to change. Ever. Because it comes from within our DNA. It's what we are.

Also, your comment that women can wear men's clothing without re-proach is incorrect as well. A woman shopping in the men's dept. will likely be assumed to be shopping for her boyfriend, but if she's trying it on and buying and wearing it, she'll be viewed at BEST as a "tomboy", but in all liklihood, more as a bull dyke. Yes, guys love lesbians, as long as they are hot lesbians, not manly lumberjacks. lol Tomboys are also on the fringes of appeal, some go for it, but most want a girl who is a bit more feminine - even if she can build and drive extreme rock crawlers. (ie, a "tomboy" might be hot for her interests and abilities, but only if she "cleans up nice")

Let's face the facts - when you talk about skirts in this context, meaning, as opposed to the kilts which you cite as being over priced and impractical, you ARE referring to items residing exclusively in the women's clothing departments, and you are fully aware of this. This demonstrates precisely what I am talking about - there is a difference, and skirts are made for a woman (their hips, their legs, their overall body shape which differs greatly from ours [damn those designers, discriminatin' again.... ] ). For a man, to voluntarily go into the women's dept. and shop for, try on, like, and buy (for himself) an article of women's clothing, it does not matter if it's a skirt, a pair of th0ng pantie$, strappy high heels, a bustier, garter belt and stockings, blouse, pearl necklace, or some bangles - it's all the same thing, a man feeling exceedingly effeminate and wishing to dress like (and particularly in) women's clothing. Chances are he even gets a charge out of it (specifically because they are women's clothes).

This is not normal, and it's not something straight masculine men do, and it's not something straight (or even bi, really) women are interested in or attracted to.

And before anyone says it, YES, there ARE exceptions - people win the lottery and get struck by lightning too, doesn't mean it's likely to happen though.

A real man would pony up the cash and get something made for him. Either from a traditional store, or from Utilikilts - if that's REALLY what he (or his girl) wanted. If he could not afford it, he would not buy it until he could. Period.

This is why Alf says that men don't wear skirts. And why I back him up on that. It IS a fact. Yes, people like davidhawkes who likes to tuck his little parts between his small thighs may like to prance around in a skirt, ashamed of his own masculinity, but that's not a man.

I fully beleive we should have more lattitude to maneuver when it comes to "fashion" - the same old suit and tie is boring as hell. But we are getting there - Europe has re-embraced the Thong for men, and the Japanese have been wearing them as underwear for the last 2000 years (and while it waned post WWII in the wave of American fever, it's seeing resurgeance as swimwear), even here in the States it's starting to pick up momentum as women are finally realizing that men with the right assets actually do look good in them (so long as they are MADE for them). Sandals are finally taking off again (traditional footwear of men throughout most of recorded history, warriors especially, and many gods and angles as well). Even more unusual jewelry like ankle bracelets and toe rings are making the scene now.

The rules are STILL different, and they will remain so. But the point I'm trying to make is, we can match them, or gain the flexibility we want through items MADE FOR US, not made for them. Doing so only hurts the idea.

Furthermore, it's also a matter of economics. Keep buying the skirts and you will ensure that kilts never come down in price. Which further ensures that it won't be "the way forward" for men at all.

[Carin]

Yesterday I looked around in the womens department of a shopping mall and stopped at the denim skirts and an attendent came up and asked if I needed any help and I replied that I was just looking what skirts they had and the price. She commented that they had a changing room in the back where I could try and find the correct size.
Of course I picked a few skirts and tried and also decided to buy two skirts, one ankle long and one mini.

It is obvious that it is not uncommon that guys are wearing skirts

[sarah_9]

Hello,

No way, it sounds horrible, can you imagine skirt with hairy leg



Regards,
sarah_9


Trousers for Men`s

[lisa star]

Hello,

No way, it sounds horrible, can you imagine skirt with hairy leg



Regards,
sarah_9


Trousers for Men`s

Sarah,
We shave our leg's first, the same as you do.
And we do have the option to wear tight's or stockings as well.

[flirtyskirt]

Okay, Mr Opinionated out there, take the challenge!
It's not difficult...you just have to find a pleated, knee-length schoolgirl kind of skirt, and step into it. Pull it up, slowly, over your hips, and fasten it at the waist.
Add a pair of soft white knee-length socks, and perhaps a pair of girl shoes that fit. Try on a crisp, white cotton blouse, and stick a couple of nipple clamps on.
If you can do that, and fail to get an erection..................you're straight, and don't have a problem !

[KiltyCol]

This thread gets worse

They say "it has to get worse before it gets better", Alf.

I'm swealtering today. I've fed (Miracle Grow) and watered both gardens (front and back), since work and teatime. I've got a couple of chilled beers from Spar - a bit nearer than Sainsburys.