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GAY VS BIBLE

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Re: GAY VS BIBLE

Postby Guest » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:35 pm

Pure-Angel wrote:Well,

I think marriage is suppose to between a MAN and a WOMAN! Like what it says in the bible!

What do you guys think about this Gay Marriage Rights Amendment?


I come from the perspective of soul atoms, continuing the human race with a balance of man and woman. Also the fact that many of the people I know who are gay, dont seem to be attracted to the same sex by lust, theyre usually extremely damaged individuals looking for acceptance. I've often wondered about it myself, but came to the conclusion that it has nothing to with gender but wanting to be loved, lust aside. So I cant understand these individuals who jump on the bandwagon for protests sake.
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Postby notastitchonme » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:39 pm

I think marriage should only be between a man and woman... That's what religion has dictated... So if you want a religious union... Otherwise it would be like saying 'you can't hand the ball in football, unless you few over there want to then it's OK' Rules is rules, if you don't like 'em, play a different game...

However, I do think that unions are good for gay couples as it brings responsibility and commitment to a realtionship... These things are better for society and the individuals...
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Postby Guest » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:44 am

quite simply, the bible says being gay is wrong. it says it is "detestable".

so how the F*** can you be a christian / jew and smoke cocks / lick clams?

you cant.
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Postby pheromoaner » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:19 am

well if I had to make a choice between religion or sex. I know which one I'd choose. and I'm sure the vast majority would choose sex too.

Only this isn't about making a choice is it...
Its about stopping other people from having any choice.
sounds pretty christian to me.
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Postby Guest » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:04 am

pheromoaner wrote:well if I had to make a choice between religion or sex. I know which one I'd choose. and I'm sure the vast majority would choose sex too.

Only this isn't about making a choice is it...
Its about stopping other people from having any choice.
sounds pretty christian to me.


Why does Christianity get so much stick anyway? This question has always bothered me. How is Christianity stopping you from making a decision? We all have free will to make any choices we choose.

The one thing relationships are based on is "Love", so what does gender have to do with the unity of minds and souls? What is stopping a person from co-creating with someone of the opposite sex? True we arent here to simply co-create, but what is the fascination with rebelling for the sake of proving a point. Surely a man/ woman relationship is more balanced for a child than same sex relationships.
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Postby chanster » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:27 pm

People are forgeting that marriage is a very new thing historicaly speaking and it's introduction had nothing to do with the church and nor is there reference to it in the bible. 'Wife' sure, 'taking a wife' sure, but they were all 'living in sin' as there was no church marriage in biblical days, old testerment or new. Marriage [a signing of a contract] was introdusced as a civil thing and had more to do with property rights that anything to do with God or the church at the time.

The argument about gay marriage is a religious phurpy.
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Postby chanster » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:02 pm

for those interested in a more historical perspective of 'marriage' I'll add the following:

Marriage as a Ceremony or Contract

The act, formality, or ceremony by which the marriage union is created, has differed widely at different times and among different peoples. One of the earliest and most frequent customs associated with the entrance into marriage was the capture of the woman by her intended husband, usually from another tribe than that to which he himself belonged. Among most primitive peoples this act seems to have been regarded rather as a means of getting a wife, than as the formation of the marriage union itself. The latter subsequent to the capture, and was generally devoid of any formality whatever, beyond mere cohabitation. But the symbolic seizure of wives continued in many places long after the reality had ceased. It still exits among some races, and until quite recently was not unknown in some parts of Eastern Europe.

After the practice has become simulated instead of actual, it was frequently looked upon as either the whole of the marriage ceremony or an essential accompaniment of the marriage. Symbolic capture has largely given way to wife purchase, which seems to prevail among most uncivilized peoples today. It has assumed various forms.
Sometimes the man desiring a wife gave one of his kinswomen in exchange; sometimes he served for a period his intended bride's father, which was a frequent custom among the ancient Hebrews; but most often the bride was paid for in money or some form of property.
Like capture, purchase became after a time among many peoples a symbol to signify the taking of a wife and the formation of the marriage union. Sometimes, however, it was merely an accompanying ceremony. Various other ceremonial forms have accompanied or constituted the entrance upon the marriage relation, the most common of which was some kind of feast; yet among many uncivilized peoples marriage has taken place, and still takes place, without any formal ceremony whatever.

By most civilised races today, the marriage ceremony is regarded as a religious rite or includes religious features, although the religious element is not always regarded as necessary to the validity of the union. Under the Christian dispensation marriage is a religious act of the very highest kind, namely, one of the seven sacraments. Although Luther declared that marriage was not a sacrament but a "worldly thing", all the Protestant sects have continued to regard it as religious in the sense that it ought normally to be contracted in the presence of a clergyman.

Owing to the influence of the Lutheran view and of the French Revolution, civil marriage has been instituted in almost all the countries of Europe and North America, as well as in some of the states of South America. In some countries it is essential to the validity of the union before the civil law, while in others, e.g., in the United States, it is merely one of the ways in which marriage may be contracted. Civil marriage, for all intents and perposes is a post-Reformation European institution that spread to other countries with christianity .
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Postby PrincessMary » Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:31 pm

If gay people chose to be gay, straight people must also chose to be straight.

Why is 'chosing' to be straight' okay, but 'chosing' to be gay is not?

Religion has no right to tell me who I can and cannot love, or share my life with.

Let gays marry! :P
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Postby notastitchonme » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:12 pm

PrincessMary wrote:If gay people chose to be gay, straight people must also chose to be straight.

Why is 'chosing' to be straight' okay, but 'chosing' to be gay is not?

Religion has no right to tell me who I can and cannot love, or share my life with.

Let gays marry! :P


Nobody can force anyone to 'love' anyone else, you either do or don't... BUT,
Religion does have the right to stop you marrying someone... MARRYING is a RELIGIOUS act/ceremony... Religion cannot say you can't have a UNION, but they can refuse to MARRY you... They make the rules in their religion...It's their 'club'...
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Postby Guest » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:17 pm

http://www.christiangays.com/
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Postby LamenTs331 » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:32 pm

I feel its all bogus who ever saaid that being gay was wrong Is and idiot plain and simple ....Thats the equivlent to sayin Sex is wrong and should be banned or gettin horny and masterbatin is wrong and should be banned .. Now it is my understand that things way back when were more conservative and stricter in fear that if u ddint live your life accordinly that God would punish u in the after life...Now that we have more common sense than they did back than .they blamed bush 4 resortin to past instances to arouse support to justify the means for him to go to war whether they were relivent or not no one bothered to give it thought ,that the way life once was doesnt apply to the way life currently is in its present state ..we should be focusin on the present not on the past if thats what they did in the passed thats fine but since we dont live like that anymore lets keep all that stuff where it belongs in the past ..Alot of youths and young adults grow up with this belief that was spoon fed to them by their parents and they dont give it any thought they just roll with it because its "How i was raised " Well your parents thoughts shouldnt be yours u should have ur own thoughts beliefs and opions that have nothing to do with and outside influence if they are from and outside influence than they arent relivent @ all to the present.... your brain is like the funnel that intakes knowledge and info and feeds it to the mind well if ur not the pourer than that means someone else has taken over .Ur parents in this case .We still give these anciant ways of living substance...Bottom line thats Hate the bible doesnt preach hate and prej.
..If these things were placed in the bible than they were placed in the bible by A man and in no way would be comin from "god's" mouth Because to say that being gay is wrong in the name of the bible and @ the same time say that the bible is the words of Our creator..well wouldnt that mean your bashin the very creator and his creation...Wouldnt that mean you arent living accordinly to gods Plan ? u bash gays but praise god ? when god is responsible for the human race(in ur eyes )

One thing that irkes me more than anything else is the fact that they say not to intermingle Church and state to keep them separated But yet you take context Out of a belief system that u say should be segrated from politics and turn it into a law ?...Does this make sense to anyone because it doesnt make a spits worth of sense to me ...Agh i wish they would just abolish religoin and the bible .. from the ignorant People of this planet...Because knowledge in the wrong hands resuls in turmoil thats like giving a loaded gun to a child and tellin him how not to use it Knowin he/she is goin to use it incorrectly anyways. this just doesnt make no sense At all ...U cant sit their and judge a persons beliefs or standards of living when u urself dont even live up to ur standards and beliefs ..and at the sametime Chose to live ur life differently than other but fail to see that Not everyone lives or thinks like u ...Tradition in the wrong hands and givin down to the wrong people results in utter belligerents ..Which is what Belief has come to these dayz
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Postby one_irish_rover » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:15 am

notastitchonme wrote:
PrincessMary wrote:If gay people chose to be gay, straight people must also chose to be straight.

Why is 'chosing' to be straight' okay, but 'chosing' to be gay is not?

Religion has no right to tell me who I can and cannot love, or share my life with.

Let gays marry! :P


Nobody can force anyone to 'love' anyone else, you either do or don't... BUT,
Religion does have the right to stop you marrying someone... MARRYING is a RELIGIOUS act/ceremony... Religion cannot say you can't have a UNION, but they can refuse to MARRY you... They make the rules in their religion...It's their 'club'...


A couple can be married by the captain of a ship, a Justice of the Peace, a judge, or most anyone dressed up as Elvis Presley. A religious ceremony is obsolete.
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Postby LamenTs331 » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:40 pm

Religion shouldnt intfere with marriage period churches are used for Marital purposes ...but by sayin i'am not goin to marry someone because of their sexual preference thats basically like the priest includin his own personal beliefs into your personal life thats not right ....U dont go to a priest to get an opion of what u should do as far as marriage is concerned u just go their and hes supposed to perform the task for you
if he doesnt want to that fine ..But you have know right to comment or past judgement on the way someone lives their lifes espcially if it has nothing to do with u or wont affect your life in any way
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Postby Guest » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:37 am

Do you have condoms on the ward?
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Re: GAY VS BIBLE

Postby Guest » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:30 pm

Pure-Angel wrote:Well,

I think marriage is suppose to between a MAN and a WOMAN! Like what it says in the bible!

What do you guys think about this Gay Marriage Rights Amendment?


There's nothing in the Gospels that claims being homosexual is wrong or right. It's never mentioned.

Additionally you may want to think about the following facts.
1) All men were expected to be married in the Jewish tradition, it would be very suspect and highly unusual for a man to be unmarried at the age of 20. Jesus died unmarried over 30.
2) It is highly unusual for a man to associate with 12 other men to the exclusion of a family life in the Jewish tradition. Jesus spent virtually all his time in the company of twelve men with a strong attachment to him.

Before you get outraged, re-check your gospels for any indication that homosexuality was ever an issue for Jesus or the earliest Christians. The Romans and Greeks of the time found sex with anything to be nothing more than an enjoyable pastime. It's only latter Christianity and Jews that found issue with it.
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