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http://www.deadline.com/2008/06/wall-e-and-wanted-open-big-at-box-office/


Filmgoers Wild For ‘Wall-E’ And ‘Wanted’: Angelina Jolie Posts Best Opening Ever; Lonely Droid Debut Is Pixar’s 3rd Biggest

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So Wanted, Universal’s Angelina Jolie/James McAvoy starrer, debuted to $19.1M Friday and $17.5M Saturday from 3,175 venues for a $51.1M weekend. It marks a new franchise for the studio which expected only $35+M from this stylish summer actioner fueled by the Matrix-like high octane provided by hot Russian director Timur Bekmambetov. It turned out to be the best June opening ever for an R-rated movie, beating Knocked Up‘s $30.6M, and the 6th highest R-rated opening of all time (behind The Matrix Reloaded, The Passion Of The Christ, 300, Hannibal, and Sex And The City) as well as the 3rd biggest R-rated action film (behind The Matrix Reloaded‘s $91.7M, and 300‘s $70.9M). It’s also the biggest opening ever for a live-action Angelina movie and she proved a big draw: the studio said the main reasons given for choosing to see Wanted were the action (67%) and Jolie (61%). Exit polling showed the audience breakdown was 52%/48% male to female, 51%/49% under age 30 to over age 30.

Still not the source -- in fact, if Nikki Finke is the one saying this, then it is almost certainly a lie. This source document also states that the STUDIO (not cinemascore) is making these claims. In fact, Nikki Finke is really the only one making these claims, and she's a longtime loon.

JuJuBee- this is why I bore you and other posters with my insistence on obtaining source data. Nearly everything said and printed about angelina voight is based on lies. This discussion started with the claim that a legitimate entertainment polling source had made an unbelievably favorable claim about Miss Voight. When questioned about the source data, the poster provided links, instead, to the credibility of the data source they were citing. When pressed further, they provided a second-hand claim, again without the source data. When finally pressed to provide the original data, the poster provides information proving that it was never cinemascore's poll at all, but rather a well-known loon blogger who made this claim.

So, for nearly four years now, Angie Voight's camp has perpetrated the lie that over 60 percent of "Wanted's" very successful opening was due to Voight being in the film. It has actually become part of the public domain now -- like the fact that she allegedly gave 1/3 of her earnings to charity. However, if we keep pressing, we eventually get to the truth of the matter. In this case, it turns out to be yet another paid-off hack lying about Voight's popularity.

People always wonder why Voight gets away with the studios and TPTB not calling her out on her true box office, always putting the best possible spin on her projects, when anyone can see that the numbers are being whitewashed. This is exactly why. Because she and her cohorts lie, distort, and manipulate the truth until -- by the time the real truth comes out -- the lie (Wanted was so successful because of Voight) has already stolen the narrative.

i guess Angelina paid Cinemascore off to quote those numbers(in case you need a lesson Cinemasore aks ppl why they chose the movie)..Angelina must have also paid off all the people who went to see SALT because for some reason even though the movie was carried by her name alone ppl still went to see it..

Sigh. Read it again, loon. CinemaScope had nothing to do with the numbers Finke is citing.

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ok looks like the real loonies VAJ aka Angie did voodoo to get Brad and is in the CIA is on now, cant take anything that freak says seriously so i just wont respond to it

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Of course it does, as usual she's citing the numbers of cinemascore given to her by the studio. the same number for Variety:
Among action films, “Wanted” sucked up most of the oxygen in the arena. Auds have made it clear they like to see Jolie in shoot-’em-up action roles, as some of her more dramatic outings haven’t translated into box office wins.

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988255?refCatId=13

And there:http://unreality.tumblr.com/post/40348900/review-wanted
Cinemascore exit polls: Why did you go see Wanted?
67% - Action
61% - Angelina Jolie

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Of course it does, as usual she's citing the numbers of cinemascore given to her by the studio. the same number for Variety:
Among action films, “Wanted” sucked up most of the oxygen in the arena. Auds have made it clear they like to see Jolie in shoot-’em-up action roles, as some of her more dramatic outings haven’t translated into box office wins.

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988255?refCatId=13

And there:http://unreality.tumblr.com/post/40348900/review-wanted
Cinemascore exit polls: Why did you go see Wanted?
67% - Action
61% - Angelina Jolie

Thank you..idk why its so hard for these ppl to believe that ppl went to see WAnted because of Angelina..

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also for the dyslexic FFer that keeps saying Cinemacope..CinemaSCORE finds out for every movie what the demographics were, the rating they give the movie, and WHY they came to see the movie..idk whats so hard to understand in this

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i guess Variety and Nikki were lying about Cinemascore lol

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Of course it does, as usual she's citing the numbers of cinemascore given to her by the studio. the same number for Variety:
Among action films, “Wanted” sucked up most of the oxygen in the arena. Auds have made it clear they like to see Jolie in shoot-’em-up action roles, as some of her more dramatic outings haven’t translated into box office wins.

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988255?refCatId=13

And there:http://unreality.tumblr.com/post/40348900/review-wanted
Cinemascore exit polls: Why did you go see Wanted?
67% - Action
61% - Angelina Jolie

Fail, loon. You really need to give this up. Once again, there is no citation for the CinemaScore "data."
What happened is this:

1) Nikki Finke lied about these numbers being from CinemaScore in her original review.
2) This is memorialized in a post copied from her blog at the time it was written. It is on this site in its entirety, and it clearly states that CinemaScore is the source for these numbers.
3) Once that lie was brought to the attention of Entertainment Weekly (which "owns" the CinemaScore data), EW's Legal was presumably brought in to "talk" to Nikki Finke. Or Nikki Finke just went back in and changed the data before she could get into legal trouble over it.
4) Now Nikki Finke's site has changed the review to more accurately reflect the fact that it is Finke's opinion that Miss Voight was the draw for "Wanted" and that this opinion is not based on any polling data from CinemaScore.
5) Meanwhile, all the review blogs had already integrated Finke's original misinformation into their reviews of the movie.
6) Since, to the best of my knowledge, Finke never made her lies public, these blogs would have no way of knowing they were quoting fraudulant data, and therefore, didn't "fix" the reviews.

You see, this is why so many of what you call "haters" simply don't believe what we hear about spittnho, We've seen things like this happen way too often.

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i guess Variety and Nikki were lying about Cinemascore lol

Nikki was definitely lying, and it's criminal that she is not held to account when she knowingly perpetrates this kind of fraud.
Variety never claimed that CinemaScore provided any data about "Wanted." Here's a blurb from Variety that I found interesting:

"Auds have made it clear they like to see Jolie in shoot-’em-up action roles, as some of her more dramatic outings haven’t translated into box office wins."

The only numbers that Variety provide are those associated with audience age.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988255?refCatId=13

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She just has that it just admit it and find yours

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I sincerely hope that the Cinemascore data is true. If it is true they we can all say good-bye to Angie's career because her only successful movies have been action movies. She cannot do action movies anymore - everyone that went to see Salt (except loons of course) were laughing at the thought of Angelina doing those stunts and beating up men twice her size. It was too unbelievable even for people willing to suspend their disbelief during a movie. My husband watched it and was laughing when she jumped on that moving tractor-trailer. She is too old, brittle and ragged to be thought of as an action heroine anymore. I read countless comments from men wondering where the Angie of Lara Croft has gone.

Take a look at the data the loon posted:

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.

Does anyone honestly think young males will flock to her movies in the future?? No they won't - she has lost her sexy, edgy appeal and they are all turned off by the fact that she has 6 kids. My nephews who are teenagers loved her in Wanted - my sister was watching the Golden Globes and when they saw Angie they were horrified - couldn't believe how bad she looked (that was when she wore that white dress with the red thing right) - said she looked like a vampire (I kid you not). We all know the audience which goes to action movies have never went to see one of Angie's dramatic roles (AMH and Changeling). There will always be someone younger and sexier to take her place and it will happen.

So thank you loon for posting that data - you posted it to brag but in doing so showed the rest of us that Angie's career is pretty much over. Action heroine is over and theater-goers are not interested in her dramatic roles. What exactly does that leave?? NADA

BTW - Would love to see the breakdown of the audience that went to see Salt if anyone can find it

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Found the data Deadline posted for Salt:

The Philip Noyce-directed pic had been tracking extremely well for weeks by garnering solid unaided awareness overall with total awareness strongest in older females and males, followed by younger males. (Younger females were a bit behind…) Once in theaers, the well reviewed film appealed to an audience that was 53% female, and 59% of the opening weekend audience was older than 25. What other actress plays so well with both women and men, old and young?

http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/angies- ... more-56241

This data proved my point - the Salt audience was older than Wanted and more female than male. She lost that young male audience she had for Wanted - we all suspected that young males would be attracted to that movie no matter what actors were cast. I always suspected the Salt audience were older than the Wanted audience - the youngsters really don't understand Russia being a fearsome enemy. Whenever you have that young crowd you have great box-office. The young male audience she had for Wanted were all going to see Inception. Makes me laugh because the loons all claimed that Jen had the geriatric crowd but Salt's total awareness was strongest in OLDER females and males. If she makes another action movie (highly doubt it - whatever happened to Salt 2) watch the numbers drop from Salt and the audience skew even older. The young crowd who are vital for an action movies' success will not buy her in a tough heroine role.

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I sincerely hope that the Cinemascore data is true. If it is true they we can all say good-bye to Angie's career because her only successful movies have been action movies. She cannot do action movies anymore - everyone that went to see Salt (except loons of course) were laughing at the thought of Angelina doing those stunts and beating up men twice her size. It was too unbelievable even for people willing to suspend their disbelief during a movie. My husband watched it and was laughing when she jumped on that moving tractor-trailer. She is too old, brittle and ragged to be thought of as an action heroine anymore. I read countless comments from men wondering where the Angie of Lara Croft has gone.

Take a look at the data the loon posted:

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.

Does anyone honestly think young males will flock to her movies in the future?? No they won't - she has lost her sexy, edgy appeal and they are all turned off by the fact that she has 6 kids. My nephews who are teenagers loved her in Wanted - my sister was watching the Golden Globes and when they saw Angie they were horrified - couldn't believe how bad she looked (that was when she wore that white dress with the red thing right) - said she looked like a vampire (I kid you not). We all know the audience which goes to action movies have never went to see one of Angie's dramatic roles (AMH and Changeling). There will always be someone younger and sexier to take her place and it will happen.

So thank you loon for posting that data - you posted it to brag but in doing so showed the rest of us that Angie's career is pretty much over. Action heroine is over and theater-goers are not interested in her dramatic roles. What exactly does that leave?? NADA

BTW - Would love to see the breakdown of the audience that went to see Salt if anyone can find it

Most summer action movies draw a younger male audience, but "Salt' did just the opposite, based on the appeal of Jolie and also largely positive reviews. 53% of filmgoers were female, according to exit polling, and 59% were older than 25.

Salt
male 47%
female 53%

under25 41%
over25 59%

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Of course it does, as usual she's citing the numbers of cinemascore given to her by the studio. the same number for Variety:
Among action films, “Wanted” sucked up most of the oxygen in the arena. Auds have made it clear they like to see Jolie in shoot-’em-up action roles, as some of her more dramatic outings haven’t translated into box office wins.

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988255?refCatId=13

And there:http://unreality.tumblr.com/post/40348900/review-wanted
Cinemascore exit polls: Why did you go see Wanted?
67% - Action
61% - Angelina Jolie

I have a problem with 128 % of the people answered....

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I sincerely hope that the Cinemascore data is true. If it is true they we can all say good-bye to Angie's career because her only successful movies have been action movies. She cannot do action movies anymore - everyone that went to see Salt (except loons of course) were laughing at the thought of Angelina doing those stunts and beating up men twice her size. It was too unbelievable even for people willing to suspend their disbelief during a movie. My husband watched it and was laughing when she jumped on that moving tractor-trailer. She is too old, brittle and ragged to be thought of as an action heroine anymore. I read countless comments from men wondering where the Angie of Lara Croft has gone.

Take a look at the data the loon posted:

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.

Does anyone honestly think young males will flock to her movies in the future?? No they won't - she has lost her sexy, edgy appeal and they are all turned off by the fact that she has 6 kids. My nephews who are teenagers loved her in Wanted - my sister was watching the Golden Globes and when they saw Angie they were horrified - couldn't believe how bad she looked (that was when she wore that white dress with the red thing right) - said she looked like a vampire (I kid you not). We all know the audience which goes to action movies have never went to see one of Angie's dramatic roles (AMH and Changeling). There will always be someone younger and sexier to take her place and it will happen.

So thank you loon for posting that data - you posted it to brag but in doing so showed the rest of us that Angie's career is pretty much over. Action heroine is over and theater-goers are not interested in her dramatic roles. What exactly does that leave?? NADA

BTW - Would love to see the breakdown of the audience that went to see Salt if anyone can find it

But she looked ike a vampire in Wanted as well.

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I sincerely hope that the Cinemascore data is true. If it is true they we can all say good-bye to Angie's career because her only successful movies have been action movies. She cannot do action movies anymore - everyone that went to see Salt (except loons of course) were laughing at the thought of Angelina doing those stunts and beating up men twice her size. It was too unbelievable even for people willing to suspend their disbelief during a movie. My husband watched it and was laughing when she jumped on that moving tractor-trailer. She is too old, brittle and ragged to be thought of as an action heroine anymore. I read countless comments from men wondering where the Angie of Lara Croft has gone.

Take a look at the data the loon posted:

“Wanted,” about a team of super-assassins, skewed slightly male at 52% and slightly younger, with 51% of the aud under age 30. It also played well to Hispanic and African-American auds.

Does anyone honestly think young males will flock to her movies in the future?? No they won't - she has lost her sexy, edgy appeal and they are all turned off by the fact that she has 6 kids. My nephews who are teenagers loved her in Wanted - my sister was watching the Golden Globes and when they saw Angie they were horrified - couldn't believe how bad she looked (that was when she wore that white dress with the red thing right) - said she looked like a vampire (I kid you not). We all know the audience which goes to action movies have never went to see one of Angie's dramatic roles (AMH and Changeling). There will always be someone younger and sexier to take her place and it will happen.

So thank you loon for posting that data - you posted it to brag but in doing so showed the rest of us that Angie's career is pretty much over. Action heroine is over and theater-goers are not interested in her dramatic roles. What exactly does that leave?? NADA

BTW - Would love to see the breakdown of the audience that went to see Salt if anyone can find it

But she looked like a vampire in Wanted as well.