The Obama Thread - Original Vintage Edition

[azraelle]

Do I want a country armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons to be run by a right-wing nutter who believes in the face of all logical reason that God appeared to an American, well of course it would have to be an American, and told him he was to lead the only true religion in the world and gave him comically badly written ancient texts and some sort of crystal ball with which to translate them, neither of which have ever been seen since? I don't think so.

People have a right to believe in religion. And I don't know how you conclude that anyone believes God is American, or British either for that matter.

Every Christian in the world--assuming they dare call themselves Christian--believes that a Jewish carpenter raised himself from the dead 3 days after being crucified. Really, Dan, how is that LESS FAR-FETCHED than God and Jesus appearing to an up-state New York farm boy one spring day in 1830 in answer to a prayer?

To an atheist such as yourself, Dan, I suggest that both are equally far-fetched. I also suggest that Mitt the Mormon, despite the glowing article, has strayed just a bit from the Mormon ethics I was taught as a boy. THAT said, I frankly doubt that Mitt's religion will play any larger part in his Presidency--if he wins, which I doubt--than JFK's did--or for that matter, Nixon, Clinton, or the Peanut Farmer Carter.

[Ruth75]

He will show us his income tax records.
He will show us he has nothing to hide.

The following is from yesterday's leader in "The Washington Post".

"So far, Mr. Romney has made public one year of his federal return, for 2010, and promises to release the 2011 return when it is ready. He has declined to disclose any earlier years."

Nothing to hide?

[azraelle]

He will show us his income tax records.
He will show us he has nothing to hide.

The following is from yesterday's leader in "The Washington Post".

"So far, Mr. Romney has made public one year of his federal return, for 2010, and promises to release the 2011 return when it is ready. He has declined to disclose any earlier years."

Nothing to hide?

Pot. Kettle. Black.
RE: Obama. Nothing to hide?
e.g. defending your hero while castigating Romney on this issue just proves what lengths political hypocrites will go through to make their point.

[Ruth75]

He will show us his income tax records.
He will show us he has nothing to hide.

The following is from yesterday's leader in "The Washington Post".

"So far, Mr. Romney has made public one year of his federal return, for 2010, and promises to release the 2011 return when it is ready. He has declined to disclose any earlier years."

Nothing to hide?

Pot. Kettle. Black.
RE: Obama. Nothing to hide?
e.g. defending your hero while castigating Romney on this issue just proves what lengths political hypocrites will go through to make their point.

Castigating? I thought that meant reprimanding or criticising severely.
If you were referring to me I think closer inspection of what I wrote will show I merely quoted a leader from a leading broadsheet in the USA and then questioned the claims made in the original post. So, I think you must be thinking of a different big word.
"Defending your hero" would suggest that reference was made to someone else. Again, closer inspection will show reference was made only to the claims made in the original post.
The original post was a list of the qualities of this man as a reason to vote for him There was no comparison made in this list to Obama or to anyone else. It was purely a list of all his good points and attributes which, standing alone, make him the person for whom people should vote. Therefore, any evidence that shows a contrary position from that which Mr Romney claims is perfectly justifiable to highlight.
Perhaps as far as the "political hypocrites" label goes perhaps some introspection would be helpful for you and others like you.

[ZiaAries]

He will show us his birth certificate.

And so the repetitive crap goes on month after month after month. Obama has shown his birth certificate, what's the problem?

Do I want a country armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons to be run by a right-wing nutter who believes in the face of all logical reason that God appeared to an American, well of course it would have to be an American, and told him he was to lead the only true religion in the world and gave him comically badly written ancient texts and some sort of crystal ball with which to translate them, neither of which have ever been seen since? I don't think so.

For f*ck sake, this crap has as much credibility as the tooth fairy. You want him as president?

That post doesn't even make sense. What are they reporting over there to y'all?


I think it would be a positive move to put a business man into the office in order to move the economy ahead. As for Obama, he has spent 106 days out of the last 6 months doing nothing but fundraising.

[ZiaAries]

Do I need to post sex stuff in this thread for the few regular posters to come back???? I read where they were disappointed in the forum changes. No problem... let'stalk about SEX

Or we can discuss how a shadow was cast on my first love, Mr Bruce Wayne. How much out of the craziest imaginations can really happen in reality? We've made some bad choices in America. Too many nuts obtaining guns legally. Off topic, but the Supreme Courts decision about unlimited spending is not much different in my opinion. It's no more than letting a disease out of the bag.

Back to Thursday, don't we sorta look like nuts/terrorists from the Mid-east???? Heart wrenching. Sick!

[azraelle]

I post occasionally, Zia. I think it's a foregone conclusion that whoever gets elected, we're still f**ked.

[jaxxx]

... I think it's a foregone conclusion that whoever gets elected, we're still f**ked.

of the people, for the people and by the people.

hrm...

nope, nope and maybe, depends on how much voter fraud exists. But, I'm sure it's safe to say...NOPE

I venture to guess, most civilized nations have political climates that have digressed to levels that resemble environments lessor nations. In our nations, the politicians use technology, advertising and money to get what (and who) they want. It's only one step up from mob like retaliations with bats, stones and mass protesting. The difference is, it's the inner circle and corporations, not the country(wo)men, greasing the proverbial wheel via donations and fund raising.

[jaxxx]

Do I need to post sex stuff in this thread for the few regular posters to come back????

Nah....but if you can get the female populous to contribute nudes, it might help

The problem (for me anyway), is the lack of individuality this forum has. There use to be a diverse topic base. Yes, there were sex sections, which brought in many of the men. It now seems as the admin of this site are gearing the site towards women. Most men aren't all that keen on reviewing topics of fashion, celebrities and dating advice.
If all we are getting is a political section, well, we can find those all over the internet.

[ZiaAries]

I think it's a foregone conclusion that whoever gets elected, we're still f**ked.

Each goes whichever direction the wind blows. Equals in that respect.

[Big Ben]

I saw this post about o'bumma, and am sharing it with you:

"He has shown his true colors, I know double speak when I see it Mr President. You can't spin your way past what you are, a socialist leftist that trots around the world appeasing Muslims and apologizing for America, What do you love about this great country Mr President? It sure isn't freedom of speech,unless you agree with his outrageous agenda, it sure isn't freedom of religion, unless your a Muslim, it sure isn't free enterprise, unless you run a sham solar company and you mean free tax payer money. What exactly qualifies you, to lead this great nation. You divide and pit people against each other, you tell people that to get ahead that you need to take from those who have earned it. you've put more people on foodstamps and assistance then anytime in our history. You are a disgrace Mr Obama and an embarassment to the office, just take your money and go away. Spend the rest of your days on the liberal college speech circuit, and leave us be."

[DanMc]

This is how Steve Bell, cartoonist with the Guardian, sees Romney's visit to Israel:

[Big Ben]

Happy Birthday to barack hussein o'bumma.

o'bumma didn't build that cake, or anything else either :

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/not- ... 07407.html

[ZiaAries]

Happy Birthday to barack hussein o'bumma.

o'bumma didn't build that cake, or anything else either :

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/not- ... 07407.html

That's funny. He has been sticking his foot in his mouth these days. Then again, all of them do. Someone should have said to him, "you didn't inherit this", it's your job! The one you ran for! The one you said you wanted and would bring 'change' and 'audacity of hope'!!!

I'm giving up on politics. I now find our Conservatives as obnoxious as I do our Liberals. The way people are acting over the whole Chick fillet thingy sickens me. The guy had every right to say what he said, but what it has turned into, the lines in front of a freaking chicken sandwich store is more than supporting freedom of speech. I see it as something a little more sinister.

[DanMc]

Happy Birthday to barack hussein o'bumma.

o'bumma didn't build that cake, or anything else either :

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/not- ... 07407.html

That's funny. He has been sticking his foot in his mouth these days. Then again, all of them do. Someone should have said to him, "you didn't inherit this", it's your job! The one you ran for! The one you said you wanted and would bring 'change' and 'audacity of hope'!!!

I'm giving up on politics. I now find our Conservatives as obnoxious as I do our Liberals. The way people are acting over the whole Chick fillet thingy sickens me. The guy had every right to say what he said, but what it has turned into, the lines in front of a freaking chicken sandwich store is more than supporting freedom of speech. I see it as something a little more sinister.

I found pretty much the same thing, but in reverse. During the "New Labour" period, and I was a member of The labour Party for a number of years, it was clear that all the things from the Thatcher/Major era that made me join were now Labour policy. Blair was a Conservative leading The Labour Party, much as a cuckoo inhabits the nest of other birds. That's why I resigned from membership. I understand your disillusionment.