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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby lynnie » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:37 pm

AP - WASHINGTON D.C. -

In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U..S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter...

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T !

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S... Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S... State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won't survive much longer.

If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby UKGent » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:53 am

One of the questions that is getting brought up time and time again is about the use of a passport used when visiting pakistan in 1980. Due to pakistan being on the US 'no fly zone list' during that time some people are concluding that he could not therefore have used a US passport. My question is this, are people 100% postitive that it would be impossible for a US citizen travelling on a US passport to enter and return from a country on the US 'no fly' list. All it takes is some officals to look the other way or those who cannot really be bothered to do there job properly to then let someone fly to a banned country.

Next question would be, even though Obama has been reported to admit going to pakistan in 1980, what the reports do not say is if he did so directly or via a 3rd country. Yes he may have visited Pakistan but may have done via a country that wasnt on the US 'no fly' list. All Obama states is he visited the country, he doesnt seem to disclose how he actually went about doing it.

Maybe when as a 20yr old, Obama did something that at the time seemed reasonable but now when president, if looked back on, the american people may see the events as disturbing and hence he is trying to hide it. He could and in with all intentions be a 'natural born' citizen and held a US passport during his travel to pakistan during the 80's but it would appear there is something during that time he wishes to be kept secret and because of this, people are assuming that it must have something to do with his passport when in all possibilitly is could be something completely different.

It will be interesting to see what the courts come up with. Personally i dont think it will ever get that far because lawyers for Obama will drag it out so long to the point of the next election and if he looses then any court case will be a moot point because he is no longer president.
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby lynnie » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:21 pm

It will be interesting to see what the courts come up with. Personally i dont think it will ever get that far because lawyers for Obama will drag it out so long to the point of the next election and if he looses then any court case will be a moot point because he is no longer president.


Plus UK, if a person has a million dollars to hide documents.. he has enough money to buy the time.....lynnie
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby Big Ben » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:55 pm

If bh o'bumma is found to have not been born in the US (all he has to do to put the matter to rest is produce a birth certificate, so if he doesn't he is acting guilty as sin), would that legally void all legislation passed under his auspices?
o'bumma is a play on words, using the American slang "bummer" = an unfortunate situation. oh!...bummer! is spelled as o'bumma. This and similar plays on words can be found in numerous places throughout the internet.
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby DanMc » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:31 pm

Which part of "he was elected President by your electorate and therefore won" (without a highly dodgy legal decision over "chads") is difficult for you right-wingers to understand? All the rest is racist and Islamophobic bollocks I would have thought.
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby The Chairman » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:35 pm

Big Ben wrote:If bh o'bumma is found to have not been born in the US (all he has to do to put the matter to rest is produce a birth certificate, so if he doesn't he is acting guilty as sin), would that legally void all legislation passed under his auspices?



If Barack Obama does not produce a birth certificate , does it mean that the White House should be prosecuted for hiring an illegal immigrant.....?
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby lynnie » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:47 pm

DanMc wrote:Which part of "he was elected President by your electorate and therefore won" (without a highly dodgy legal decision over "chads") is difficult for you right-wingers to understand? All the rest is racist and Islamophobic bollocks I would have thought.


Sorry Dan.... I do not believe you mean to misrepresent... What is difficult for you u to understand is that this is not Racist or Islamophobic............it is about abiding by our American constitution............

I suspect you would highly resent a woman from Iran or say, France... claiming the throne to assuming to be queen of England...........Notice I said suspect because I do not presume to know what goes on inside your head.......

Come on Dan, get a grip here........... and Give us Constitutionalists some credit. NOT all of us bumble through with closed minds and under par intelligence.

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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby ZiaAries » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:56 pm

I'm not worried about any of that and my reason will forever be the same... Hillary Clinton! She would have sniffed that one out in a heartbeat and nipped it in the bud! Plus, how embarrassing it would be to know that it got passed the highest officials of this land. What would that say about our national security? :shock:

There's other trees for me to bark up - about right now... or perhaps I should say "an entire coastline to bark [and cry] about"!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby lynnie » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:10 pm

ZiaAries wrote:I'm not worried about any of that and my reason will forever be the same... Hillary Clinton! She would have sniffed that one out in a heartbeat and nipped it in the bud! Plus, how embarrassing it would be to know that it got passed the highest officials of this land. What would that say about our national security? :shock:

There's other trees for me to bark up - about right now... or perhaps I should say "an entire coastline to bark [and cry] about"!!!!!!!!!


Zia, I think Hillary made a Trade Off....... Sec of state to bow out of the presidential elections. With her health and Bills' health SEC of State keeps her out in the public's eye with out the work of President....not that bho works but some American Presidents have in the past. lynnie
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby ZiaAries » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:35 pm

lynnie wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:I'm not worried about any of that and my reason will forever be the same... Hillary Clinton! She would have sniffed that one out in a heartbeat and nipped it in the bud! Plus, how embarrassing it would be to know that it got passed the highest officials of this land. What would that say about our national security? :shock:

There's other trees for me to bark up - about right now... or perhaps I should say "an entire coastline to bark [and cry] about"!!!!!!!!!


Zia, I think Hillary made a Trade Off....... Sec of state to bow out of the presidential elections. With her health and Bills' health SEC of State keeps her out in the public's eye with out the work of President....not that bho works but some American Presidents have in the past. lynnie


But she didn't bow out. He won the nomination. It was close, but he indeed had more votes than she did.

He also won the southern vote... which I wish he wouldn't forget about the south now. With as little as being done for us down here, including NO one coming to our aid for the flood in my state, now with the LA, AL, MS and FL coast, one might think he's a Southernerophobic. :o :lol:

(I mean, if we are gonna name call and accuse) :hand:
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby DanMc » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:37 pm

lynnie wrote:
DanMc wrote:Which part of "he was elected President by your electorate and therefore won" (without a highly dodgy legal decision over "chads") is difficult for you right-wingers to understand? All the rest is racist and Islamophobic bollocks I would have thought.


Sorry Dan.... I do not believe you mean to misrepresent...What is difficult for you u to understand is that this is not Racist or Islamophobic............it is about abiding by our American constitution

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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby lynnie » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:13 pm

Zia, dear... I also want him to let Bp do the clean up, I want him to demand bp to do the clean... I do not think it is going to happen... and yes... crying about the devastation... bo will have his "work" time centered on the amnesty bill......... instead... by doing nothing or near nothing in the gulf... bo can continue with buying foreign oil....... and I believe that is what he has wanted all along..................

One reason the citizenship is an important issue to me is that if he left office immediately perhaps there would be a chance that Joe Biden would act appropriately..aHas Biden spoken about the gulf devastation???? .who knows... ???? lynnie
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby ZiaAries » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:04 am

If he wasn't American born, SOMEONE would have proven it before now. More than likely, Republicans or the media would have found evidence if born somewhere else. Again, I think this is barking up the wrong tree. I think there would NEVER had been a chance of him being sworn in IF there was even a small chance of non citizenship.

Joe Biden isn't any better. 6 of one - 1/2 dozen of the other.
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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby lynnie » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:12 am

ZiaAries wrote:If he wasn't American born, SOMEONE would have proven it before now. More than likely, Republicans or the media would have found evidence if born somewhere else. Again, I think this is barking up the wrong tree. I think there would NEVER had been a chance of him being sworn in IF there was even a small chance of non citizenship.

Joe Biden isn't any better. 6 of one - 1/2 dozen of the other.


yes, you are perhaps right about Joe Biden... if he could not accept corrupt he would not be VP.. at any rate time will tell........... about BO... to me, if he is proven not a citizen ...it would be proof out front and for all to see How dis honest he is..

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Re: Does he have the legal right to be

Postby Lena » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:30 pm

Big Ben wrote:If bh o'bumma is found to have not been born in the US (all he has to do to put the matter to rest is produce a birth certificate, so if he doesn't he is acting guilty as sin), would that legally void all legislation passed under his auspices?


He has , it's on the web too. :lol:
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