Cameron Attempts To Snatch Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory

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Cameron Attempts To Snatch Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory

It is disgusting to see UK Prime Minister David Cameron all but throw away the victory he achieved when he vetoed the Merkozy treaty...
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...there is no reason for David Cameron to commit this country to a project that is intellectually, morally and democratically bankrupt.

Indeed the Euro project is exactly as Boris Johnson describes. And that is precisely why Cameron should have gone on the offensive and put membership in the EU to popular vote instead of making sniveling, apologetic statements to appease Merkel and Sarkozy, both of whom will be gone after the next set of elections.

AND THIS, TOO

I cannot possibly agree more with Pritchard's statement "Seize the moment of liberation, and enjoy it." Indeed Pritchard should be grateful for the arrogance of Merkozy.

Cameron's Pledge to "Fight from Within" is entirely wrong.

In a highly entertaining video interview with Nigel Farage has exactly the right idea: Escape Euro Prison!

ANY THOUGHTS?

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I first posted this in the... "Should the UK pull out of the EU" thread but I'll repeat it again here.


I think the main question is will pulling out of the EU somehow make the UK more prosperous and/or make life better for its citizens? e.g. economic growth; lower unemployment; low inflation; more manufacturing; everyone on good wages; more houses etc. The answer to that is... NO.

Staying in the EU is also NO guarantee of prosperity either so then you have to ask yourself... what's all the fuss about? Especially from the mainly English Euro-sceptics? i.e. The "let's get out of Europe" sentiment doesn't arouse the same passions in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Whatever the reasoning behind pulling out of the EU, it certainly isn't one about making life better for Britons. I mean do you really think pulling out will somehow pave the streets with gold? Methinks not. It seems to me to be an argument between either...

a) letting the EU screw the economy with a little help from us or...
b) let's take back "control" so the UK can screw the economy all by itself (but we'll feel better about it i.e. no meddling foreigners)

For me I kind of hope the other EU member states boot the UK out just so that I don't have to hear people and politicians saying...

it's all their fault - those sodding Europeans!

...when the economy goes wrong. We live in a Global economy as the last recession and credit crunch testified i.e. that started in the USA.

Also people generally don't understand the difference between the Council of Europe which has 47 members an has institutions like the European Court of Human Rights and the EU (European Union) which has 27 member states and is a concentrated more on finance/economics. The two are completely separate institutions.

Pulling out of the EU does not mean the UK will be out of Europe. We'd still be bound by the legislature of the Council of Europe as the UK would still be a member of that institution.

In a speech at the University of Zurich on 19 September 1946, Sir Winston Churchill called for a "kind of United States of Europe" and the creation of a Council of Europe.[1][2] He had spoken of a Council of Europe as early as 1943 in a radio broadcast.[1]