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GAY VS BIBLE

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Re: GAY VS BIBLE

Postby Guest » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:23 am

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Pure-Angel wrote:Well,

I think marriage is suppose to between a MAN and a WOMAN! Like what it says in the bible!

What do you guys think about this Gay Marriage Rights Amendment?

There's nothing in the Gospels that claims being homosexual is wrong or right. It's never mentioned.

Additionally you may want to think about the following facts.
1) All men were expected to be married in the Jewish tradition, it would be very suspect and highly unusual for a man to be unmarried at the age of 20. Jesus died unmarried over 30.
2) It is highly unusual for a man to associate with 12 other men to the exclusion of a family life in the Jewish tradition. Jesus spent virtually all his time in the company of twelve men with a strong attachment to him.

Before you get outraged, re-check your gospels for any indication that homosexuality was ever an issue for Jesus or the earliest Christians. The Romans and Greeks of the time found sex with anything to be nothing more than an enjoyable pastime. It's only latter Christianity and Jews that found issue with it.

it's in the old testament, which the new testament adopts to the extent not superceded by jesus in the new testament....nice try... :roll:
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Postby stereotype » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:33 am

Yea god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah(sp) because of all the buttsex that was going on...Hence the term sodomy, which also includes oral sex if i'm not mistaken...its not just about homosexuals.
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Postby salo » Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:04 am

stereotype wrote:Yea god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah(sp) because of all the buttsex that was going on...Hence the term sodomy, which also includes oral sex if i'm not mistaken...its not just about homosexuals.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 18:22
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Postby Guest » Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:07 am

salo wrote:
stereotype wrote:Yea god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah(sp) because of all the buttsex that was going on...Hence the term sodomy, which also includes oral sex if i'm not mistaken...its not just about homosexuals.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 18:22

AND . . .

"If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." Leviticus 20:13
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Postby LamenTs331 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:00 am

as far as the christian bible is concerned its a very contradictory book...which if u believe in god and wut he represents than u'll know that those words didnt come from him ...they came from a man st augistine a very pesimistic man who was insecure about his sexuality because of his indeniable sexual drive this disdain also comes from jewish worshippers and writers of the bible who resented the sexual practices of the greeks and romans ...the bible was put together by theory with not alot of great substance or thorough thoughts givin to it ..(teleology) in lamends terms its for those of u who dont understand what teleology is like a childs perspectifve of thinggs for instance any adult with half a brain knows what makes thunder and lightin..but if you ask a 5 yrold he/she would probably give u a answer like "thats just god moving furniture "...This is the logic that makes of large portions and perspectives of the bible ..soo sayin homosexuallity is wrong ...Is Wrong comin from a moral and ethical standpiont everyone has a right and people need to wake up and rea;lize that its very unethical or immoral to damn someone for the way they live theirs as a matter of fact u shud be classified right up their extremist terrorists..its un godly
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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:56 am

Those quotes are from the Old Testament, which pre-dated Saint Augustine.

Those quotes were posted in reply to someone who suggested the Bible proscriptions are "not about homosexuals."
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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:28 am

LamenTs331 wrote:as far as the christian bible is concerned its a very contradictory book...which if u believe in god and wut he represents than u'll know that those words didnt come from him ...they came from a man st augistine a very pesimistic man who was insecure about his sexuality because of his indeniable sexual drive this disdain also comes from jewish worshippers and writers of the bible who resented the sexual practices of the greeks and romans ...the bible was put together by theory with not alot of great substance or thorough thoughts givin to it ..(teleology) in lamends terms its for those of u who dont understand what teleology is like a childs perspectifve of thinggs for instance any adult with half a brain knows what makes thunder and lightin..but if you ask a 5 yrold he/she would probably give u a answer like "thats just god moving furniture "...This is the logic that makes of large portions and perspectives of the bible ..soo sayin homosexuallity is wrong ...Is Wrong comin from a moral and ethical standpiont everyone has a right and people need to wake up and rea;lize that its very unethical or immoral to damn someone for the way they live theirs as a matter of fact u shud be classified right up their extremist terrorists..its un godly

How can you discredit the Bible and at the same time invoke God by calling those who accept the Bible's proscription against homosexuality "ungodly"?

That you consider "extreme terrorists" the people who exercise their freedom of religion and freedom of speech in saying homosexuality is immoral, confirms your unhinged depravity.
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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:41 am

Homosexuality is biologically wrong. If a male dog ran around trying to hump other male dogs, it would be assumed that it has a mental disorder. If a human does it then they by all means have the right to. It doesnt make it logical or work biologically.

I really don't think there should be anything that says homosexuals are worth less than hetero people, but I don't think they should be married. Marriage was something made up by humans with the idea of getting together, staying together, having kids, and raising a family.
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Postby one_irish_rover » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:59 am

. wrote:Homosexuality is biologically wrong. If a male dog ran around trying to hump other male dogs, it would be assumed that it has a mental disorder. If a human does it then they by all means have the right to. It doesnt make it logical or work biologically.


Please study up on the science of biology. It will take some time and effort, but your life and views will be enormously enriched. And you'll look back on this statement and see how completely ignorant it is.
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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:02 am

one_irish_rover wrote:
. wrote:Homosexuality is biologically wrong. If a male dog ran around trying to hump other male dogs, it would be assumed that it has a mental disorder. If a human does it then they by all means have the right to. It doesnt make it logical or work biologically.

Please study up on the science of biology. It will take some time and effort, but your life and views will be enormously enriched. And you'll look back on this statement and see how completely ignorant it is.

Of course you would say that, being bisexual and all. :wink:
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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:17 pm

No thanks, I sat through many biology courses at my universtity and nowhere did we discuss homosexual animals, not that I am positive that they don't exist but I would suspect this. Feel free to enlighten me on how homosexuality fits into natural biology because it seems pretty obvious that it doesn't. Just because two members of the same sex can make each other achieve orgasm doesn't prove anything.

I don't think they've proved that theres a gay gene yet, but I could be wrong.
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Postby noodles » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:40 pm

Homosexuality is biologically wrong. If a male dog ran around trying to hump other male dogs, it would be assumed that it has a mental disorder.

Lol – maybe in your world.


I really don't think there should be anything that says homosexuals are worth less than hetero people, but I don't think they should be married. Marriage was something made up by humans with the idea of getting together, staying together, having kids, and raising a family.

Lol – and since when were homosexuals not human, not wanting to get together and stay together and in some cases raise a family.
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Postby noodles » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:40 pm

Homosexuality is biologically wrong. If a male dog ran around trying to hump other male dogs, it would be assumed that it has a mental disorder.Lol – maybe in your world.


I really don't think there should be anything that says homosexuals are worth less than hetero people, but I don't think they should be married. Marriage was something made up by humans with the idea of getting together, staying together, having kids, and raising a family.
Lol – and since when were homosexuals not human, not wanting to get together and stay together and in some cases raise a family.
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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:12 pm

When I said "marriage was made by humans" I meant it was something that was made up. There were reasons for it, and a purpose for it. I wasn't saying they are not human.

they can raise a child, but it won't be their child unless they had a previous hetero relationship, surrogate, or something along those lines...They say they are living "alternative lifestyle"...that's fine!! they can have their own alternative to marriage.
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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:05 pm

. wrote:No thanks, I sat through many biology courses at my universtity and nowhere did we discuss homosexual animals, not that I am positive that they don't exist but I would suspect this. Feel free to enlighten me on how homosexuality fits into natural biology because it seems pretty obvious that it doesn't. Just because two members of the same sex can make each other achieve orgasm doesn't prove anything.

I don't think they've proved that theres a gay gene yet, but I could be wrong.


Your teacher was probably afraid to bring it up. Crowding rats for instance causes a significant number of them to become homosexual and to ignore female rats. Homosexuality is fairly normal in lower animals and human animals too. Western thought is based on the philosophy of the Greeks, notorious bi-sexuals.

The poster who never saw a male dog humping another dog has never owned male dogs.
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