husband doesn't want baby yet

[Guest]

I really dont understand why guys are so wussy about this.

I consider it quite an honour to be offered sex by an unprotected lady, or asked to help by Artificial Insemination. It's the biggest compliment a man can be given.

For gods sake guys, get out there and get the job done.

Some of us can have unprotected sex without worrying about whether or not some sniveling brat shows up some day claiming you as their Dad, and the woman that wanted a child without a family environment plans didn't work out, she gets bitter and ruins your life! It takes a family to raise a stable and decent person from a child. Most men don't want damaged goods or a woman heavily laden with baggage.

That's not always true, firstly there are some mothers who are happy to have their exes out of their lives.

I'm sure, so they can repeat the process

There are also women who have much better qualifications than their exes such as a Degree or Masters. So they can go out and get better jobs because they are more skilled. Some mothers who are more talented than their exes and can do absolutely anything they wish with work wise.

Not anything....the more successful a woman is, and the higher the position she holds, the less likely they are to have children. Wanting a career is fine, but you can't put the child first then and go for the gold...it doesn't work, so it's the child that ends up paying the dues of the mother.

So there is no reason for revenge when they are more mature, grounded and talented. Thirdly, there are men who are attracted to intelligent, talented "mothers" who are never short of offers

I guess haggling over the price for the session trying to get a higher amount is looking out for the kid!

, so it's really not all that bad. Maybe for the men who missed out on being real fathers, but then nobody is thinking about them anymore, because the children come first.

I'm sure if the women had all the talent and intelligence and God's gift of wisdom in perception, they would be better at assessing potential mates. Since we know that isn't true, and the guys who have been lied to and deceived have the courts hounding their every step, the women aren't as up on things as you think. How can they assess a man as husband and father material when the female has her ankles behind her ears being his slut in the sack? Surely that is putting the child first!!!

Am trying to get across that there are a lot of intelligent mothers as opposed to this negative stereotype you have of mothers. There are clever women who can hold down decent jobs, they have degrees, masters, PHD's and support their families when the fathers couldn't keep up, left or disappeared. They support their children through hard work, talent and intelligence and all credit to them. Can't knock them for that.

[Guest]

Not anything....the more successful a woman is, and the higher the position she holds, the less likely they are to have children. Wanting a career is fine, but you can't put the child first then and go for the gold...it doesn't work, so it's the child that ends up paying the dues of the mother.

Women can be successful with children, heaps of money doesn't always equal success, some of the best jobs aren't necessarily the most best paid, though well paid. Some women can do anything because they are multi-lingual and multi-skilled and have the qualifications. I think you're from the school of thought that likes to see women fail.

[hayden d]

You are making excuses for him. There is never a good time to have a baby. He is either scared or doesn't want to have a baby with you. Lay it on the line with him. If you don't there will always be an excuse until you make him put up or shut up. There are plenty of great guys out there who would love to give you a child. If he doesn't watch out, your husband will end up like me. Single, alone, over 30, and desperately wanting to have the experience of making and having a child with someone.

[Guest]

You are making excuses for him. There is never a good time to have a baby. He is either scared or doesn't want to have a baby with you. Lay it on the line with him. If you don't there will always be an excuse until you make him put up or shut up. There are plenty of great guys out there who would love to give you a child. If he doesn't watch out, your husband will end up like me. Single, alone, over 30, and desperately wanting to have the experience of making and having a child with someone.

See there are men who want babies. They're not looking at women through tainted eyes.

[Guest]

Babs
I think you really need to let your partner know that this is really important to him and that age is an issue. I was talking to my partner one day about age and how time is running out and he had no idea what i was talking about. I have down syndrome and other gentic disorders withing my family so waiting until i'm 30 is not really an option in my mind, but you have waited and you really need to let your husband know that it is time and there is no more waiting. You do not have to push him into making a decision but just let him know that it is pretty much now or possibly never and then see how he feels about the child situation.

[H. Franklin Layne]

Not anything....the more successful a woman is, and the higher the position she holds, the less likely they are to have children. Wanting a career is fine, but you can't put the child first then and go for the gold...it doesn't work, so it's the child that ends up paying the dues of the mother.

Women can be successful with children, heaps of money doesn't always equal success, some of the best jobs aren't necessarily the most best paid, though well paid. Some women can do anything because they are multi-lingual and multi-skilled and have the qualifications. I think you're from the school of thought that likes to see women fail.

No, I'm from the school of thought that recognizes babies need their parents. They need to be put first in the line of fulfilling needs. Career women are split. The company sees to that. How many times have you heard of company (ies) telling female employees, their job is on the line, and they have to decide between starting a family or keeping their job? Around here, that tune is on classic stations because it is so well known. The boss really doesn't care what the reason is for missing work, but you can count on the fact he is keeping track of the number of missed days. Is it right or fair, NO! Is it reality, YES. You can have all the skills and everything else to be a great mother or a great employee, problem is, one is a drain on the other! What's more important...the kid or the job?

[Guest]

Not anything....the more successful a woman is, and the higher the position she holds, the less likely they are to have children. Wanting a career is fine, but you can't put the child first then and go for the gold...it doesn't work, so it's the child that ends up paying the dues of the mother.

Women can be successful with children, heaps of money doesn't always equal success, some of the best jobs aren't necessarily the most best paid, though well paid. Some women can do anything because they are multi-lingual and multi-skilled and have the qualifications. I think you're from the school of thought that likes to see women fail.

No, I'm from the school of thought that recognizes babies need their parents. They need to be put first in the line of fulfilling needs. Career women are split. The company sees to that. How many times have you heard of company (ies) telling female employees, their job is on the line, and they have to decide between starting a family or keeping their job? Around here, that tune is on classic stations because it is so well known. The boss really doesn't care what the reason is for missing work, but you can count on the fact he is keeping track of the number of missed days. Is it right or fair, NO! Is it reality, YES. You can have all the skills and everything else to be a great mother or a great employee, problem is, one is a drain on the other! What's more important...the kid or the job?

Not true if you're married or have extra support from nannies, parents etc. Women can have it ALL And quit acting like women are incapable of getting to work on time. You hate women period and will find any excuse to have a go.

[Guest]

Not anything....the more successful a woman is, and the higher the position she holds, the less likely they are to have children. Wanting a career is fine, but you can't put the child first then and go for the gold...it doesn't work, so it's the child that ends up paying the dues of the mother.

Women can be successful with children, heaps of money doesn't always equal success, some of the best jobs aren't necessarily the most best paid, though well paid. Some women can do anything because they are multi-lingual and multi-skilled and have the qualifications. I think you're from the school of thought that likes to see women fail.

No, I'm from the school of thought that recognizes babies need their parents. They need to be put first in the line of fulfilling needs. Career women are split. The company sees to that. How many times have you heard of company (ies) telling female employees, their job is on the line, and they have to decide between starting a family or keeping their job? Around here, that tune is on classic stations because it is so well known. The boss really doesn't care what the reason is for missing work, but you can count on the fact he is keeping track of the number of missed days. Is it right or fair, NO! Is it reality, YES. You can have all the skills and everything else to be a great mother or a great employee, problem is, one is a drain on the other! What's more important...the kid or the job?

Not many give women that kind of ultimatum and few that do are swiftly sued for unfair dismissal. Stop talking crap.

[H. Franklin Layne]

Not anything....the more successful a woman is, and the higher the position she holds, the less likely they are to have children. Wanting a career is fine, but you can't put the child first then and go for the gold...it doesn't work, so it's the child that ends up paying the dues of the mother.

Women can be successful with children, heaps of money doesn't always equal success, some of the best jobs aren't necessarily the most best paid, though well paid. Some women can do anything because they are multi-lingual and multi-skilled and have the qualifications. I think you're from the school of thought that likes to see women fail.

No, I'm from the school of thought that recognizes babies need their parents. They need to be put first in the line of fulfilling needs. Career women are split. The company sees to that. How many times have you heard of company (ies) telling female employees, their job is on the line, and they have to decide between starting a family or keeping their job? Around here, that tune is on classic stations because it is so well known. The boss really doesn't care what the reason is for missing work, but you can count on the fact he is keeping track of the number of missed days. Is it right or fair, NO! Is it reality, YES. You can have all the skills and everything else to be a great mother or a great employee, problem is, one is a drain on the other! What's more important...the kid or the job?

Not many give women that kind of ultimatum and few that do are swiftly sued for unfair dismissal. Stop talking crap.

You are such a party pooper! Will you tell everyone else to stop talking crap, or the just those that strike a nerve with you?

[Guest]

Not anything....the more successful a woman is, and the higher the position she holds, the less likely they are to have children. Wanting a career is fine, but you can't put the child first then and go for the gold...it doesn't work, so it's the child that ends up paying the dues of the mother.

Women can be successful with children, heaps of money doesn't always equal success, some of the best jobs aren't necessarily the most best paid, though well paid. Some women can do anything because they are multi-lingual and multi-skilled and have the qualifications. I think you're from the school of thought that likes to see women fail.

No, I'm from the school of thought that recognizes babies need their parents. They need to be put first in the line of fulfilling needs. Career women are split. The company sees to that. How many times have you heard of company (ies) telling female employees, their job is on the line, and they have to decide between starting a family or keeping their job? Around here, that tune is on classic stations because it is so well known. The boss really doesn't care what the reason is for missing work, but you can count on the fact he is keeping track of the number of missed days. Is it right or fair, NO! Is it reality, YES. You can have all the skills and everything else to be a great mother or a great employee, problem is, one is a drain on the other! What's more important...the kid or the job?

Not many give women that kind of ultimatum and few that do are swiftly sued for unfair dismissal. Stop talking crap.

You are such a party pooper! Will you tell everyone else to stop talking crap, or the just those that strike a nerve with you?

Just boys that have unfounded issues with girls.

[H. Franklin Layne]

Not many give women that kind of ultimatum and few that do are swiftly sued for unfair dismissal. Stop talking crap.[/quote]

You are such a party pooper! Will you tell everyone else to stop talking crap, or the just those that strike a nerve with you?[/quote]
Just boys that have unfounded issues with girls.[/quote]

Good thing, why don't you go deal with them!

[Guest]

Not many give women that kind of ultimatum and few that do are swiftly sued for unfair dismissal. Stop talking crap.

You are such a party pooper! Will you tell everyone else to stop talking crap, or the just those that strike a nerve with you?[/quote]
Just boys that have unfounded issues with girls.[/quote]

Good thing, why don't you go deal with them![/quote]
How might one do that?

[H. Franklin Layne]

Do what?

[Guest]

Do what?

Deal with them

[lilinoz]

I am in a situation very simular.

I have been with my husband for 8 years, married for 3. I am going crazy thinking about having a baby, but he wants to move back closer to the family before we start trying. I have tried everything under the sun (excluding beating him and pricking holes in condoms) but he still wont budge. This has been going on for years. He has tried every excuse under the sun ranging from needing a better job to waiting until we buy a house...i'm quite fed up.

I have discussed many different solutions with him on how it would work out...i have everything planned to the last letter but i still get the same response.

I am starting to resent him for making me wait this long, i dont think i could wait another 2 years before we are near our family. I have made this perfectly clear. I feel like i'm talking to a brick wall.

How do i survive the wait without exploding from the inside out from all the emotions i'm feeling. And am i wrong or selfish to not care if the family is close by?