kellie 12 wrote:
Roland H Ericson wrote:This past weekend I stopped at a rest area, and watched a high school aged boy play fighting with his sister – well I am assuming it was a family travelling together. His sister was getting the best of him in this play fight. She was keeping him so busy defending his groin that he didn’t lay a hand on her; while she was slapping him on the face repeatedly. She kept faking kicks at his balls keeping him at a distance from her and requiring him to use a hand to defend his groin.
Sure, neither of them were really trying to hurt each other, but she was showing him something I think. Although I would disagree with those who say a man’s testicles make him inferior to a woman, I think it’s clear that women can exploit our vulnerability.
Roland At that age boys and girls are learning about gender, and a rivalry between the sexes. When two boys play the game it is is no different. In high school girls often saw boys playing nut sacking games, and often would let us join in. Often the boys would go after our butt, or even try to tap our breasts with the towel, never directly though. Strange that the boys would never nut tap us gals in the groin. They were often under the illusion that we could not be hurt down there.
In the early teens girls grow up with a lot more pressure then boys. As you know girls mature earlier, start worrying about their figure, worry about getting periods. Boys while developing later, getting stronger, usually involved in sport. When girls start getting their periods, they are taught about pregnancy, and boys do not have to worry about that. Since boys do not get pregnant, they are curious about our breasts etc, and it is tough for girls to fight off the larger boys.
In short that girl play fighting her larger and stronger brother is just learning to hold her ground. It is actually good that she learns her female power over boys, and that she learns to hold her ground. The boy on the other hand, will learn to treat his sister with some respect. In short once that girl hits her brother in the balls, he will respect her, and learn to fear girls in a certain way. That being said it is obvious that boys and girls should not be getting in physical fights. For it is not good if the stronger male beats up the weaker female, of if the girl hurts the boy in his weakness.
In that store, that smaller girl, was just trying to state her ground against you the larger man. She obviously knew what she was doing, and it was just a warning for you to be more careful about her breasts Sadly to say that is the only way the smaller women can hold her ground against a much stronger man. Those are the boundaries between men and women and should be respected.
You're full of S***. Men, sorry. Any decent woman knows that's playing with fire. The rest are no good to you. Even one threat there stays with you, I'm sure of this. No different than a feinted punch to her face, or lascivious motion toward her body. She'll never forget it, and hate you for it.
The convenience store woman should have been dumped the moment she went into her motion, whether she connected or not. She violated your rights to hold you in such a way and then threaten you in such a way. Her action was deliberate and threatenng. Your action was an accident. You were moving on with your day and apologized. Smaller woman excuses don't hold water, except with old men and feminists without reasoning who are determined to see women always win, no matter how unlimited is a man suffering.
Men, will you please start making sure if there's any disrepect to you like that, you'll stand against it? Deterrence is all you have with bad women and on-the-fence women. It cannot be defended against. It get justified away and goes unpunished in respect to the damage it causes. It's gone too far.
The next men that writes please tell me you're not going to allow this in your circle of influence. There is no good in being a woman if men are going to be nothing but jelly rolls, scared and partially committed to a little of this and a little of that. I'm not afraid of men, despite a lot of weirdo existing, and I think few woman are when it comes down to it, thanks to God giving us a last ditch safety measure. So women's stated claims of fear making them do it are a crock.
More groins are hurt in meanness than any other reason. Those women should be punished. What happens to a 14 year old male rapist? More than a misssed day of school, I'm sure of that. What should be done about a 14 year old female groin kicker? Suspend her from school only? Ridiculous. A lifetime of trauma for a boy, and she only misses a few days of school at worst, and makes a bragging video for Youtube?
Understand, however, when a groin kick is appropriate then it's appropriate - just before dangerous circumstances occur, that we might not get out of!
Play fighting with someone you love? Sparring a classmate in a martial arts class? Keeping men "in their place" by threatening their groins? Fu no!
Since the brother would not hurt his sister, she has no reason to threaten or occasionally connect with his sexual parts to keep the threat real. That's her f'n brother for peats sake. He'll then be confused and grow up into a indecisive loser. We've all gotten dated a version of these men, who only know a weird kind of relationship with opposite sex. They frequently say, "You decide. Sure, you win." They have no stamina for anything: "I'll always lose." (they think) "I was sexually assaulted every now and then growing up. My mother would just laugh about it and said I should have beat my sister at ping pong. No one including me has ever recognized how my special part is treated as unimportant."
Sure kids mess up. However, from the moment of learning it does hurt a male mentally and sexually, it's off limits in any trust-building relationship. Kellie's completely wrong about scaring men earns women respect. Hatred and respect are not the same. Even a movement toward the groin to say, "I could get you there, you know that right?" must be between real trusting couples and cutely done. Keeping men off guard or scared of something disastrous happening will never gain respect, only hatred.
As far as men tapping each other's their groins, they both have the same risk. It's not a game they play with untrusted girls who would go too far. I can only go by my husband's comment, that if a boy or man had "tapped" him he'd take it as a huge slight against him. A woman thinking it's an acceptable thing to do from watching other men? Wrong conclusions. If I ever were in hub's shoes I can almost sense the same feeling of being violated, just when I thought I was having fun.
A year ago my huband wrote to his sister who is 4 years older, about how wonderful she is and how she protected him taught him to wrestle. She cried and saved the letter, and mentions it from time to time. None of that love and respect would have happened he said, if she had ever thought it was a okay to hurt his groin, even when she was losing. They went 50-50 always he said, their "governor" being as soon as she was hurt he'd feel so bad and sorry and helpless, she start beating him up. Then she'd hurt him too much, feel sorry and weak, and it go the other way. Lot's and lots of this, plus football with kids in the neighborhood. His sister eventually played women's professional football.
Girls enjoying the physical feeling of play fights should not do wrong things like threaten or touch a boy's balls, anymore than a boy should gouge a girl in the eye and says it earns him respect. If she's smaller, but she really wants to be there, she must expect to be a well-treated loser. He must expect to be a well-treated loser if he's doing something where she has greater ability (wrestlng, Brazilian Jujitsu, words per minute races on a keyboard). In none of these events, just because it's physical, should the man if losing, threaten the woman's ability to have children, or remain healthy in the gender she was created to have, or make her feel helpless, or make her suffer in pain and fear over an outcome. It's just wrong. Bring it up or think otherwise, and you're just plain stupid. Also, doing so will invite from men silence and hatred, or argument and hatred. Deterrence is not advocating groin kicking on the whim of a female aware of what she's doing, and not accepting punishment for the mental and physical damage it puts on the victim an other men. There's no deterrence when somene can hurt you anytime they feel like it and not be punished. That what happens in Libya to all people, or to men in a world where women promote this as earning them respect.
Women cannot promote hurting men's privates whenever it's up to them (proven by either actual events, outwardly stating it, or showing no caring when it happens), then wanting to be respected, loved, and thought of valuable contributors to society.
We should start reflecting positive conflict resolution rather than the bracing feeling that comes when men and women argue on TV, the movie's "heroione" is about to become a rapist (that's how I see this), then smile and being a "star" interested in fashion or God-forbid, men. This creepy actress is willing to do anything for money, by not standing up to a director and saying my clothes stay on and I'm not kicking a man there), sets a bad example for all the girls and women who will ever watch that movie.
We want to stay in a good mood even when we see groin kicking, so usually it doesn't affect us. We even slightly celebrate (I'm sorry guys) because we know it wasn't real but it turned out okay in that instance. It does change us. however. In a large way we never see ramifications toward women for doing that. It schanges us, and I know it changes you men.
Once knowing thay boys can be hurt there, to not stay away from it is always irresponsible, regardless of age. Respect comes from standing up for oneself without resorting to that.
Threaten a man once, and the relationship is never the same. Granted, family usually has to stay together, but stay away from the groin. All men are not the same, but I'd say the "average to good" ones who get threatened for assorted reasons (visually, virtually, speech or physically) are deeply, negatively affected by this. The supposedly bad men could hardly have gotten there from a smiling baby boy who received love and protection of his spirit and his sexual parts.
There's no question that men or women unchecked in their actions, consciences, or decisions to harm others are capable of significant destuction. Entire societies follow those kinds of people, become them, and can't shake loose their mental outlook of: (1) hate = respect (2) love is a game of temporary gain.
I pray the U.S. stops this with a far better media leading the way. Some moves should show severe consequences for ball-kickers, to balance the general perpective some, then not go overboard with that after about 10 movies. Think back to the supposedly tough Joker getting kicked in the groin by Batman's love interest whoever it was. That was a moment to set an example. Ruthless Joker. He PC'd his way with a laugh toward this "spunky woman." Cutting off her nose, for example, was the appropriate step for such a bad guy. She was not only captive, and therefore stupid to attack, but she did "it." He could have shown what a normal men would feel when a woman doesn't care whether he can be a man the rest of his life (which is exactly what my husband said he would feel; one testicle never worked for some reason, so he's always been serious about this topic).
Hang in there men. Because our society is influenced and programmed by TV, I believe only 20% of women are caring and really know right from wrong. That's still 40 milion women or so. Half of those women may further change their minds to see things more your way, even though they might see you half-laughing.
Men, do us a favor and don't laugh when you see this. Stop acting tough, unaffected and well, punkish. It helps all women know better your true feelings. Often a woman's only ideas for how to deal with men comes from TV and a broken home where Mom does not have a man's love, or from a home where there's constant fighting, and the man she sees she doesn't respect (he's a bully or a victim).
Keep it simple. It's wrong. If it's anything else, it grows out of control to hurt everyone.