what do men think of men who don't drive

[Guest]

When I come across Men who cant drive, I think there's something wrong.

They're likely to be lentil munching sandal wearing brainwashed greenies-whom i cant stand and are the sheepish scurge of the planet.

Mrs Thatcher once said that a man who finds himself taking the bus with no car over the age of 23 can consider himself a failure.
Bring those days back! Now all we have is chav scum and failures who are proud of being failures!

[Guest]

Most people should learn to drive, I kind of agree with Thatcher, it promotes independancy. How can people whinge about car pollution, yet ride on public transport or take a lift when they are tired. How hypocritical.

[noodles]

Non-drivers are always like this, they expect to be driven around for free. Even if you're assertive and ask for a contribution, some people are such users when it comes to lifts. All they have to do is offer some pounds.



Crieky you're hard work - do your days drag??


Non-drivers arnt 'always' like anything, thats such a geralisation. And if you know that people are happy to use you and your car dont give em a lift!! It really is that simple. Next you'll be telling me that they make you feel like you 'have' to give them a lift

[Guest]

Non-drivers are always like this, they expect to be driven around for free. Even if you're assertive and ask for a contribution, some people are such users when it comes to lifts. All they have to do is offer some pounds.



Crieky you're hard work - do your days drag??


Non-drivers arnt 'always' like anything, thats such a geralisation. And if you know that people are happy to use you and your car dont give em a lift!! It really is that simple. Next you'll be telling me that they make you feel like you 'have' to give them a lift

Won't give them a lift unless they pay and if they moan and bitch about it, I can dump them as friends?

[honbuns]

Would generally think it odd that anyone hasent taken their test by the time they are in their twenties as not being able to drive is quite limiting. However there are some people that do not have the skills to drive, that does not mean they are thick though there are some that are too thick to pass there test.

An ex boss of mine was very bright but just could not get his head around driving and if anyone had challenged him as a man he would have ripped their head off. He did suffer from Napolean syndrome in spades though.

[noodles]

Would generally think it odd that anyone hasent taken their test by the time they are in their twenties as not being able to drive is quite limiting. However there are some people that do not have the skills to drive, that does not mean they are thick though there are some that are too thick to pass there test.

An ex boss of mine was very bright but just could not get his head around driving and if anyone had challenged him as a man he would have ripped their head off. He did suffer from Napolean syndrome in spades though.

Yeh, i fail to see why anyone would care if someone else didnt drive. It makes no sense to me.

[Non driving man]

I do not drive because I have a bad sense of space and distance, also have limited attention Span. Do you have a problem with that?. it should be logical that driving is not something everyone should be doing. the implication that a man is less of a man because he does not hold a driving licence is stupid.


Regarding the social aspects I can not see a problem with asking someone for a lift, if they are going my way. I have noticed women in my age group a less likely to offer me a lift then men. that may just be they may be nervous if they do not know me well. which is understandable

[funseeker]

well I only passed 2 years ago and its great I just wished i got my license earlier..
I don't think any thing of it if people can't drive. I never really needed to drive until I passed anyway. and it can be very expensive. I passed my straight away both theory and practical. but i got a friend that has passed on their forth time on the theory = £120 and is now doing their practical they have already fail 3 times = £180 and counting.
buy the time the average persons passes the have spent nearly a thousand pound and then they have to buy a car, tax insurance, petrol its very expensive I spend over £100 a a week filling my cars

[HampshireBoy]

To answer the original question, it all depends on the man and the circumstances. I have several mates who live in London and don't own a car, one of them is in his thirties and I'm fairly sure doesn't have a car licence. With good public transport and the crap parking where they live I can understand it. A guy at work is epileptic and seems to have a fit each time he is about to be allowed back driving.

Saying that you do come across "save the planet car haters" but most of them are so boring I just ignore them.

[Riftalope]

As a non-driver, when I've had the money, I offer it. When I don't I've always been good for return help, like moving house, pet sitting, painting and such. Friend is two way.

Over the years I've felt like life wants me not to drive...
Learning to bike. Brother takes new, first bike to store without permission and gets it stolen. (been bad at it. could make do but never improved.)
Learning to drive 1. Elderly father teaching only going to work. Fight with other brother gets me kicked out, licence plan looses to living.
Learning to drive 2. Friend in minor wreck a week later. Can't afford any more problems.
Learning to drive 3. Back at parents. (They need my rent, moving anyway.) About a month from trying the test get a hernia at work. Hernia tries to burst while waiting for scheduled operation. Wake with pneumonia. Vascular leak in penis damages orgasm.
Learning to drive 4. Move in with friends, a couple with two cars. Dropped off at work. Buy $200 car (land yacht) that honestly gets 8 miles per gallon. Before being ready roommate's car dies. She drives mine to closer job. Months later snow and ice storm freezes city an breaks oil pan.
Learning to drive 5. Living under full support of friend and travelling with him. Driving lessons planned but interrupted by depression and sciatica. May have early onset Parkinson's.

So for me it "means" things suck more the more I try to be a legal driver.
I - DON'T - drive.

[Guest12345]

I'm not sure why all you people have such a negative judgment on people who can't drive. And think that all men that don't drive have a problem, lazy, or are hippies. Just a little insight on all your prejudgments there are people who want to drive but can't because they do not meet the vision requirements. So the next time someone tells you they don't drive maybe you shouldn't prejudge them, and for the people without vision problems they have the right not to drive just like you have the right to act like an asshole.

One more thing the the guy who said he hated how people say "they don't drive" when he thinks they should say "they can't drive". The correct way to say it is "they don't drive" because anyone can drive a car if they really want to maybe not legally but they can do it. That how I see it anyway you may think differently.

[guestladf]

Most people should learn to drive, I kind of agree with Thatcher, it promotes independancy. How can people whinge about car pollution, yet ride on public transport or take a lift when they are tired. How hypocritical.

It's not hypocritical at all I am not quite sure what you have been smoking maybe you should do some research before opening your mouth.

A car occupied by one person produces on average 2.06 grams/passenger-mile (g/pm) of nitrogen oxides for work trips. A fully occupied transit bus, on the other hand, would produce 1.54 g/pm, while a fully occupied rail transit system would produce only .47 g/pm for the same distance. Similarly, the car occupied by one person would produce 15.06 g/pm of carbon monoxide and 2.09 g/pm of hydrocarbons. The bus would produce 3.05 g/pm and .2 g/pm of the same pollutants, respectively. From an environmental point of view, trains are the best form of transportation: a full passenger train produces only .02 g/pm pf carbon monoxide and .01 g/pm of hydrocarbons.

A bus with as few as seven passengers is more fuel efficient than the average automobile used for commuting. The fuel efficiency of a fully-occupied bus is six times greater than that of the average commuter's automobile, while the fuel efficiency of a fully-occupied rail car is fifteen times greater than that of the average commuter's automobile. A single person who commutes via a transit system instead of driving alone will save 200 gallons of gasoline per year. A 10% nationwide increase in transit ridership would save 135 million gallons of gasoline per year. This fuel efficiency results in personal savings and in a cleaner environment for all.

For people who would like to help make the environment a cleaner place, mass transit is an ideal solution. It may not be free to build, but in the long run it is healthier for everyone. Less pollution will make the air cleaner, and fewer resources such as gasoline will be used. Many cities do have viable mass transportation systems, and the people who use them are, on the whole, well-satisfied.

From http://www.cas.usf.edu/philosophy/mass/Stephanie.html

[northlondoner]

I have a train every few minutes and (I think) six bus routes just around the corner. I haven't had a car now for ten years (except when I hire one on some holidays abroad). No one thinks badly of me at all.

[skatesforcandy]

i love to drive. i drive a stick. i bought my first car for 300$ when i was 14 and drifted it on the backroads till i got my license at 15 and a half. if a man has a dui well i understand those are easier to get than most people think, but, a man that can't drive because he didnt care enough to learn or just can't well i find that quite pathetic. in todays world man's survivability depends on his understanding of the economy, his ability to work with others to achieve financial success and of course his ability to transport himself and his family at whim. just like a thousand years ago just to SURVIVE man had to be able to shoot a bow while running full speed jumping over a log and stiff arming the cougar coming up on his right after what he just shot. back then that was a man. today a man needs to be able to make money and drive. how easy is that.

basically if you can't drive your at the bottom of the male hierarchy. you cannot provide for a woman or a family or even yourself. if you lived 1000 years ago you would not survive because the cougars ate your F****** deer before you could get there.

im not saying if you don't drive your not a man. i'm saying if you CAN'T drive your a pathetic man. don't like it well suck it.

[Major D. Bloodnock]

I never learnt to drive until the age of 38 & then only because my daughter became wheelchair bound.
Cars are fine for the infirm,old(75+) or the fair sex but give me a motor cycle every time.
Kudos to people that choose not to drive there are far too many vehicles on our roads as it is.