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[Polgara69]

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

Er...let me think........nope.

Your response Polly confirms exactly what I have been saying all along. Complete selfishness and disregard for others.

Not noble qualities at all.

Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatised, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I dont think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

[The Colonel]

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

Er...let me think........nope.

Your response Polly confirms exactly what I have been saying all along. Complete selfishness and disregard for others.

Not noble qualities at all.

Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatised, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I dont think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

You still fail to see the implications of your preference.

The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better.

As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys.

Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

[AprilJune]

That's such a stupid way to think. That means men shouldn't enjoy having sex with women because 1 in 4 of them are sexually violated before the age of 16.

[cosmicB]

"Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatized, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I don't think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isn't it? Get it?"

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And: "You still fail to see the implications of your preference.

The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better.

As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys.

Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?"


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Both are right...

In pol's boyfriend's story, he had the surgery done with respect and anesthetic... He probably lost a lot of sensitivity.. but he is cleaner and his tool is prettier, and more desirable to women, and probably to men too...

In the case of babies, who have no say in the matter, the culture runs the newborn through Hell!.. causing as much pain as medially possible, for christinsanity to play its game, in conditioning the kid to their insane abomination to program it to be an avid tither, in how the little circumcision priest and nun do their kindness thing to the kid to make it as if it was religion that took the pain away... It's vile.. it's evil.. it's insane.. it's abuse to life on a scale I still can't fully comprehend... And it's done by those who proclaim that sexuality and nudity and baby-molesting is absolute evil...
It's christianity that needs be seen for what it is, a money sucking scam reimplemented and maintained by fags... Religion needs be liquidated, and flushed out of humanity, like the great stinky turd evil it is... Wake up people!.. Religion is all just a fag's money sucking Scam, no different than the internet Nigerian money scams... Religion is how those Nigerian scammers got their MO... Haven't you noticed how they use a lot of religious dogma, and religious messages, in their scam letters... And they often end their scam letters with "god bless"... And they nearly always claim that their source was an avid christian... They take their game out of religion's game, for the same result... But in the case of religion, they are causing extreme trauma to our babies.. maybe hundreds per day... And you mindless christian parents just look the other way while the demons are hurting your babies to the ninth... You asshole parents should be forced to be there with the surgeon when he molests your babies.. and you and the press should be there when the circumcision priests and nuns do their thing with the anesthetic laced vaseline, and their programing the kid for their money sucking scam thing... They literally grind-up the mind of a newborn, so it will provide their vile establishment with 10%n of its earnings throughout its sorry mindless life... It's the extreme pain the child is run through that destroys its mind... It is christianity through circumcision that is ripping the mind out of humanity, caring only for humanity's money, to maintain the 2000-year old free ride group fagot's wine and cheese party at the careless expense of the life, intellect, and evolution, of humanity... Religion has even put the brakes on evolution, to prevent any significant change from occurring, so there will be a place in the future for their scam... Essentially religion, through circumcision, has doomed humanity to an early extinction in having ripped the minds out of babies... It goes: "Welcome to your new world and life new baby.. Here! feel the worst Pain you will ever know, and don't forget that god wants some of your money!".. and he will take the pain away with this vaseline... No doubt the nun applies the anesthetic to the kids flaming dinkie... That as far as I can get to the memory of circumcision... The rest is nearly like being "burned alive at the stake".. the memory is clouded by a wall of flame and memory of pain so extreme, that there isn't anything else there... I look at that memory, and I Know I've been damaged, somehow, but I can't get into it to repair the mess they did to me when I was an infant, neither can any of you...

I rambled away with all that, so I could say this... If humanity didn't realize that babies feel pain, till 50-years ago.. and it is so obvious that babies do feel pain.. why did they not see it..? Who set the standards that babies were to be circumcised without anesthetic?.. given that christianity needs the kid's pain to implement it's conditioning procedure..? This deserves some in depth research, to determine how mankind was lead to believe that babies don't feel pain.. and to determine who did what to maintain that belief... It's got to be in the records somewhere somehow... How did religion convince medical science to circumcise wee babies without the use of any anesthetics..? Religion needs that pain be present to do its thang to the kid's mind...
Why can't you see it?.. How can you be so stupid?.. Oh!. they did it to you too... They melted your psyche with all that circumcisional pain... "They peeled your dic for god..." Actually they peeled your dic to program you to be subservient to their insanity, for you to need to give them your money... Ever notice, they need to forever be reinforcing the scam, on TV, and in places where you worship their scam, where they collect your monies, to live the free ride, like parasites stuck to the now mindless masses... Religion is at war with our newborns, and no one is defending our babies from the evils of that war... It's been a 2000-year long war against our babies, and it Must Be Stopped!.. It is Evil as evil gets, to cause babies that much unwarranted pain... I know about that pain, I've been through it... I am fighting for humanity's babies.. no one else is... no one else can see as I see... I sees it as it is, and I tells it like I sees it... Sorry if it offends you, but sometimes the truth hurts, but nothing can hurt as much as what they do to your baby's very most sensitive nerves, when those nerves are there very most sensitive... Why don't they mace the kid's eyes too..? or poke out and eye, and shove a red hot . up its arse..? Why don't they chop off a few fingers..? Well, I had a couple fingertips blasted off when some high explosive detonated in my hand... It wasn't much pain, about a tenth of what circumcision holds... They don't chop fingers off newborns cuz it's just not enough pain for their conditioning thing to work... I bet they install an "opus-d parasite in the baby, behind those closed doors... I bet it's an eight inch long cosmic-worm with a four inch head... I bet its eggs are in their communion disks... I bet christianity is the proverbial "Satan", hiding behind its empty declarations of heaven and love...

Christianity! Cease molesting and torturing our precious Babies!.. Find an alternative money source, or go back to Hell!..

Why does the nun and priest do their thing to the kid behind closed doors, with no witnesses..? Does the priest suck the kid's dic a bit, in an attempt to initiate it into homosexuality, and deeper into dogma..? Is it christianity that turns our kids into fags..? I say treat our babies proper if you must peel their penises.. Use anesthetics as much as required to make it a totally absolutely painless procedure, and be damned sure the child feels no pain during the whole healing process.. and keep those god damned demon nuns and priests away from your babies... That's the key hold christianity has on our and your lives... That's where their control starts... Cut that out, and eventually religion will crumble into dust, to be flushed out of humanity for the vile turd and scam it really only is... Religion is dragging us into an early extinction... See it!...


I am truly sorry to be always harping on this christinsanity topic, but something must be done to wrench humanity from the devil's grasp.. and almost no one seems to have the capacity to even begin to see the reality of it... Religion burned your minds out...
If we don't fix things, humanity Will go extinct soon... And this little bit of bitching is all I can do.. They stripped away all I had to do anything for anything with... They destroyed my education.. they destroyed my family.. they destroyed my ability to earn money.. They destroyed my life, to prevent me from finding and sharing the truth with you... So now that you know a tiny bit of the truth there is nothing you can do with it... You think me to be crazy by religion's standards.. religion defends its insanity to maintain its hold on your wallets and you baby's dics... I just can't help you out of your hell.. I've run out of ideas, and all I'm doing now is repeating myself... It's irritating to you, as it is to me... I should be a great scientist, in my laboratory, building thousands of new things to make your lives better.. but religion put the brakes on me... Now I've got nothing in this world... I am absolutely nothing in your world...
I keep repeating: There is 90% more reality than what you've been taught... Religion restricts you to 7% of reality.. just enough to maintain you alive as good slaves... They suck out as much of your lives and blood and money as they can without out you complaining too much.. leaving you with just enough for you to remain alive for their bullshit god-project scam money sucking business...


They are molesting and torturing your Babies...
Protect your babies from the evil ones...
Animals protect their babies from harm.. Why doesn't humanity do the same..?

[Polgara69]

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

Er...let me think........nope.

Your response Polly confirms exactly what I have been saying all along. Complete selfishness and disregard for others.

Not noble qualities at all.

Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatised, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I dont think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

You still fail to see the implications of your preference.

The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better.

As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys.

Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

As I dont live in the uS then I dont think that applies to me. As I said, I am dont advocate world wide circumcision. I just like it cos of this particular boyfriend. End of.

[Emily B]

You still fail to see the implications of your preference. The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better. As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

Little Miss Colonel, you are still trying to hijack this thread, which is about what do mature women PREFER, trimmed or not trimmed. The clear result, from hundreds of replies here, and from the included survey, is that very few women prefer the natural dick (less than 10%). Since a man's dick also belongs to his woman, that makes a lot of sense, since she is also concerned about the health of the unit. That may be the reason so many British women emigrate to the USA where people are a little more advanced on this topic. The alternative in the UK (for a woman who prefers the circumcised dick) is to become a muslim since there's so few sanitized dicks amongst the native British male population. It's off to America for lovers of the streamlined dick.

Just because you can't stand the thought of circumcising infant boys (which is not unusual amongst young women like yourself) is no reason to keep trying to push this thread in another direction unrelated to the original question.

[cosmicB]

"Just because you can't stand the thought of circumcising infant boys is no reason to keep trying to push this thread in another direction unrelated to the original question."

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The topic is "circumcision".. which includes everything about peeling the skin off'n thu end of a male's dic.. and everything related to that scary procedure... The thread has gone on, about as far as it can, in "who likes suckin' on peeled dics, and who doesn't like dirdy dics in thar mouf... And it's gone as far as it can in chatting about dirdy dics and clean dics... Now the thread is moving on into other facets of Dic.. into what's behind peeled dics, and what's behind pfrefs, and what's connected to the dic... Ohhh.. The thigh bone's connected to the hip bone.. The hip bone's connected to the leg bone.. The leg bone's connected to the foot bone...
The dic bone's connected the the crotch bone.. The crotch bone's connected to the guy's bones... It's all related... How the culture treats little babies dics is the next evolution of this thread in this topic, given that the clean dic/dirty dic portion of the thread is dead, and your pretty dic has long ago cummed in your mouth, and or face, or all over your tits, or on the ceiling, depending on preferences and kinks... Now the topic is on about the vile treatment a kid gets run through in getting his dic peeled by mindless assholes who still haven't clued in that babies feel pain, cuz christinsanity wants babies to feel "god's heavenly pain".. cuz they needs the money to run their castles and army, and all their limos, and their great wine and cheese cellars the size of small towns... Essentially religion is just the great fag parasites perpetually feeding off the lives of the masses, the same ways Caesar did, the same way american presidents do, the same way tyrants do... Christianity is essentially just a gentle tyrant.. and humanity shouldn't allow them assholes to touch our babies, nor even get close to or most precious thing.. our baby humanity...


Plus, this topic could run into how humanity treats its babies like they are no more than dog and cats till they are 5.. or 10.. or 20.. and even when they are 50... The only time this culture treats us kindly is when they are lowering our coffin into the mud...

So what have we got in this thread now..?
We've got: Some babes don't mind chawin' on a dirdy dic... Most prefer a clean dic in their mouf, fer chawin' an suckin' purposes...
We haven't talked about how eating a male's krill gives the cum eater about 10% of that male's personality and intellect for a couple days.. probably from her body digesting his master cells... I'm supposing that's why the homosexual lure for some... Those male's learn what's in other males minds by suckin' their dics... Not my idea of a pardy!.. Bleag! Gag me with a spoon!.. Whoo!..

And we got that this culture permits insane religious concern to molest its babies to the max... Assholes!.. We should build a christianity grinder, and grind it all up into bits, and incinerate it all, and ship the ashes to the moon...
Humanity tortures its babies.. Murders little cultures.. tortures, terrorizes, murders, brothers and sisters throughout their whole lives with the insanities of democracy and religions.. robs everything they can legally, Molests it babies, Rapes its women and girls, Destroys its home planet, and Prays to its gods for their imaginary idols to please fix-up all their messes, like in how mummies change diapers...


...back to the topic "suckin dics"... I sure could use my clean dic sucked dry right about now... I just loves those babes who say they need to suck out ever Drop!.. Hearing that gives me a combo cold chill and warm rush.. and sometimes you can't even pry 'em off... So is there one of them thar unpryables out there whose got a clean uncircumcised mouth..? I gots your knee-pads ready hun...

[Mooncat]

A new-born baby is a very undeveloped human being. It takes anything from weeks to decades for the various parts to mature fully. Can a baby walk, or see, or even hold his head up, when straight out of the uterus? Of course not, and like the rest of him, the genitals are not mature. The new penis has a protective sleeve covering the glans and fused to it by a membrane. The whole assembly should be left alone, as long as urine flows out of the tip whenever the bladder is full. If the foreskin is removed, the tissues have to be forcibly separated. Then the delicate glans which is covered by a mucous membrane, (just like the inside of the female vulva), is exposed to drying air and friction with clothing; not to mention the cocktail of chemicals to be found in the nappy/diaper for 2 or 3 years.

To protect itself, the surface of the glans developes a tough layer of material, chemically similar to the hair and nails (both of which have no nerve endings). The toughened surface may not be noticed too much when the man is young, but as we age, everything gradually deteriorates, leaving a desensitised penis by the time he gets to my age.

http://fapomatic.com/show.php?loc=0812&f=glans_cu_mar05.jpg

Note the dry, fissured surfece, caused by forced exposure as mentioned above. Yes it is possible to regrow the lost foreskin, but not the Taylor Ridged Band, discovered by a urologist as recently as 1996. nor the stretch and touch sensing nerve endings. Unlike some men I've seen, I do have some of the inner inside surface remaining. Regrowing involves months/years of wearing a device, a number of which are available on the Internet, but can be home made. If I manage to cover my glans continuously for several days, the feeling of shower water on the glans is exquisite. otherwise, I can't feel anything at all. The keratinisation does break down in time, if the glans is restored to be an internal organ

So don't let a baby boy's penis be attacked by anybody who wants to do it. Do what you like with you own body when you're an adult, have your legs cut off if you wish, or decorate it with tattoos.

Before anybody mentions UTIs, it's true that a very few boys suffer these when young, many more girls get them, but over a lifetime of 60 to a hundred years, men with a foreskin suffer less from them. As for penis cancer, very few men get it, and then at a great age, and smoking accounts for most of them.

[cosmicB]

"..and smoking accounts for most of them."...


Maybe "smoking"..?

Maybe it's cuz they don't get their rocks off enough, or anymore..??

Maybe it's that plus smoking, given widowers smoke more...
Maybe it's everything they do.. and don't..?? probably... cuz if you don't care for anything anymore, health slides too..?
I'm bet some elderlies even run a sense-video of settling back in a coffin while they settle down in chairs and beds... I did painting in the house of one who had huge pails of cigarette butts near each side of the couch, and in strategic places all over the house, as if it was some kind of a "cigarette butt collection"... He wanted his smoke stained house repainted, for $1-grand... I suggested he find another painter... It would take me a couple weeks to restore that mess... And his vile demon spirit would be sucking on my prime-energies like a kid on its first chocolate milk-shake.. just so he could die well.... He must have figured that I'm his next "cosmic-meal".... I left him in my vapor-trail...


"Cancer of the dic".. Yikes!..

I figure most cancer is from "mite-poop"... I doubt one gets nuts cancer from smoking... I'm bets that "cancer from smoking" thing is a sister parallel of the "killer weed" scare concept... Nuts cancer would have to originate from beating on the balls to create pain to endure and "enjoy".. which sounds like nuts-cancer is indicative of a particular layer of insanity, manifest in the physical.. like how "Alzheimer's is physicalized the need to block a black-closet embarrassment.. as bases most insanity...


Glad someone with a brain is on this side to save human babies from the butchers, pain-givers, and mind killers... Maybe we could extinct involuntary dic-peeling, and then maybe humanity would stop wanting to die...

[Guest]

I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

Except the question asked was a generic one about whether women preferred circumcised penises and was not referenced to adult men who choose to have it done. That is why the original question is an affront to men because it inherently ignores the child abuse which underpins 99% of circumcisions.

The fact that many women can be so blase and indifferent to the whole issue underscores the problem faced. It is so easy to claim that you are against butchering young boy's genitals after others discuss the abuse angle but why was this needed to be pointed out in the first place? After all you would think anyone contributing to a topic which has at its center child abuse, would carefully qualify their answers from the outset that they only support this as an adult choice.

The answer is people just don't think about the issue because circumcision on boys is condoned by society so no need to worry. We all need to raise people's awareness that this abuse should no longer be tolerated so that in future people might actually think about this topic and understand its seriousness before giving their answers.

This is why those who claim that this discussion does not belong to this thread are so, so wrong. This is exactly where it belongs because it confronts people's indifferent attitudes and makes them face up to the fact that they are tacitly approving child abuse to answer such a generic question with a blanket yes vote.

Any other preference poll question which was centered a child abuse issue would immediately be jumped upon as immoral. This poll deserves the same treatment.

[TomTom]

I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

Except the question asked was a generic one about whether women preferred circumcised penises and was not referenced to adult men who choose to have it done. That is why the original question is an affront to men because it inherently ignores the child abuse which underpins 99% of circumcisions.

The fact that many women can be so blase and indifferent to the whole issue underscores the problem faced. It is so easy to claim that you are against butchering young boy's genitals after others discuss the abuse angle but why was this needed to be pointed out in the first place? After all you would think anyone contributing to a topic which has at its center child abuse, would carefully qualify their answers from the outset that they only support this as an adult choice.

The answer is people just don't think about the issue because circumcision on boys is condoned by society so no need to worry. We all need to raise people's awareness that this abuse should no longer be tolerated so that in future people might actually think about this topic and understand its seriousness before giving their answers.

This is why those who claim that this discussion does not belong to this thread are so, so wrong. This is exactly where it belongs because it confronts people's indifferent attitudes and makes them face up to the fact that they are tacitly approving child abuse to answer such a generic question with a blanket yes vote.

Any other preference poll question which was centered a child abuse issue would immediately be jumped upon as immoral. This poll deserves the same treatment.

[cosmicB]

There's absolutely Nothing wrong about a female preferring a peeled dic to play with, over an unpeeled dic... It's a healthy attitude in the least... All the facts and complaints indicate that an uncirc'ed dic is a vile health issue, and an all around disgusting experience for most females who opt to put dics in their mouths... How the person was circumcised has absolutely nothing to to with what a female prefers in this area... The remaining parallel-issue is totally a humanistic issue, is when and how newborn boys get their dics peeled, and the extreme pain and trauma they are pushed through, in the pursuit of money, which is absolutely unwarranted and insane at best, and I suppose you could apply "immoral" to it as well, if there was such a thing as morality, which is essentially only the applied synthetic trait of religion to direct active guilt for favorable monetary results... The thing is, it's legal to torture human infants... Guilt can be neutralized by the acquisition of money, and justified by "morality" and health issues, in their peeling baby's dics for the imaginary god of the Insane...

Bottom-line is that our Race allows our babies to be molested and tortured by the insanity of christianity, in its pursuit of free money, to maintain a 2000-year old scam and free-ride, in funding a large prolific group fagot's living, and their 2000 year old ongoing wine and cheese party, at the expense of the masses and peasant's lives, and at the expense of humanity's afterlives...

It will stop soon... Soon humanity will see the light, and send christianity slithering back to hell... There is no place in humanity's our future for the vile disease of christianity... The Only way christianity can even begin to hope it will exist in this species future is if it atones for its sins by permitting me and those like me to direct it into healing the species, and itself... If not, soon humanity will defile the vatican like how they defiled the berlin wall... Essentially christianity is dead.. clung-to by those who are actively living death...

[cosmicB]

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=circumcision+is+insanity&btnG=Search&meta=

[cosmicB]

http://www.eskimo.com/~gburlin/mgm/Medical.Opinions.txt

[The Colonel]

You still fail to see the implications of your preference. The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better. As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

Little Miss Colonel, you are still trying to hijack this thread, which is about what do mature women PREFER, trimmed or not trimmed. The clear result, from hundreds of replies here, and from the included survey, is that very few women prefer the natural dick (less than 10%). Since a man's dick also belongs to his woman, that makes a lot of sense, since she is also concerned about the health of the unit. That may be the reason so many British women emigrate to the USA where people are a little more advanced on this topic. The alternative in the UK (for a woman who prefers the circumcised dick) is to become a muslim since there's so few sanitized dicks amongst the native British male population. It's off to America for lovers of the streamlined dick.

Just because you can't stand the thought of circumcising infant boys (which is not unusual amongst young women like yourself) is no reason to keep trying to push this thread in another direction unrelated to the original question.

What mental institution are you presently in?

Nobody here is even bothering to listen to your pathetic crap. Bugger off.