What do women think of circumcised guys? Please post

[Bouncy]

The general rule is: Normal = Natural. However, it should be the man who decides what is normal for him and what isn't - whatever that may be.

Absolutely it is. I am against circumcision for anyone, regardless of gender if it is done so without their consent and knowledge. It is up to the individual to decide for themselves what preferences they have for their own body parts. It is personal choice when looking at someone else's, but it should never be demanded of them. I would make no such demands on any child of mine, regardless of gender, as it is their choice to make when they are adults.

I have no problem with men/teens getting cut - provided it is their choice, with clear and unbiased information, and without any coercion.

See above.

Female "preference" amounts to coercion, whether it is deliberate or not.

I have had sex with around 2 dozen men; give or take. The first circumcised penis I came in contact with was in my mid-20s. I asked him when/why he had it done. He said it was done at birth. He was indifferent to it. He didn't care either way. Neither did I.

The next one I came in contact with would have been a few years later. A one night stand. I didn't care as to when, why, how he was circumcised.

I met my husband and he told me he made the choice to get circumcised at the age of 30 (or thereabouts) for aesthetic and personal hygiene reasons.

So that would be 3 out of 24 penises I've had the mis/fortune to come in contact with. Given the numbers it would appear that I prefer to have sex with circumcised men. That's statistics for you. I don't prefer uncircumcised.

At no point have I ever coerced or insisted that a man be circumcised in order to be in a relationship with me. It's simply a preference. It's not a deal breaker.

There are other preferences I have that my husband does not possess. I love many different types of sport. My husband doesn't like any. I would prefer it if he shared some of my passion, but I would never demand or insist on it. I prefer to have a man without hair on his chest. My husband does. I would never insist that he wax, shave, laser it just to please me. It doesn't make me love him any less because of it. But it is still a "preference" for me. Because of my love of sport I have always preferred to be in a relationship with a rugby type physique. 6 foot plus, wide shoulders, narrower at the hips, big thighs. My husband is 5ft 10in and would look out of place on a rugby field.

These are things I prefer, they are not what I insist and demand of from a partner. And btw, my husband is well aware of these preferences but has never felt threatened or self-conscious about them because he knows through the numerous discussions we've had over many, many other different preferences (physical, spiritual, cultural, religious, environmental, ad infinitum) that these are not overly important.


If the man I married still harboured resentment towards his parents for circumcising him or for any other treatment or mistreatment of him as a child, I would question any long term relationship with him. Not because of his penis, but because of his attitude towards something he had no control over. I've lived through an abusive childhood and adult relationships myself and came out the other side of it still able to smile and laugh at the world. Not only do I prefer that anyone I am in a relationship with be of the same state of mind, I insist on it. That's the difference between a hard limit and a soft limit. There are preferences I will not compromise on and there are preferences that I will.

This discussion has been interesting and varied and I've enjoyed it for the most part. But I no longer care to beat my head against the way and defend myself. Why you and the other men here can't or won't see that my preference is not a demand and does not mean I condone or support circumcision without choice is beyond me and quite frankly I don't really care. I am fortunate to have the freedom to choose what things I like better than others. I have the freedom to express those thoughts. You have the freedom to insult and belittle me because of it. Everyone wins.


I'd respond to TomTom and CosmicB's posts as well, but I can be bothered as I prefer to have a discussion with someone who has the capacity to figure out the quote function.

So I'm no longer going to subscribe to this thread. Feel free to continue without me. Enjoy your day.

[AussieAdam]

Bouncy's post should be the end of this thread and I trust the powers that be will lock it once and for all.

Out of all the posts that have been made on this topic I have not read a better, more articulate thought out one than the one above. It summarises all the points and views and comes to the most sane conclusion, and that is, that bar medical reasons, it should always be left to the individual to decide what parts if any of their body they wish to cut, trim, enlarge, shorten, fatten, paint.

The partners of the people concerned should haveenough love and respect in them to accept the choices their partner makes or indeed refuses to make.

Well done Bouncy one of the best posts I have read since joining Female First

[cosmicB]

Assie!.. Ohhh quit kissing bouncy's bum so enthusiastically!..
Are you her puppy husband..?

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Bouncy's crucial life lesson, from the Brat:

Seems bounce has a Big problem with anything done out of the norm, out of the box... Everything has to be on the shelf, in its own distinct little slot, or it becomes extremely confusing, and rejected right off... That's a dangerous trait there miss bounce.. One day your life might fully depend upon your reflex abilities to be spontaneous.. and if the danger doesn't fit any predesignated parameters, you would fail to react in time with a sudden new formula, resulting in personal damage, and loss, and even death... You are playing with Fire in sticking to such a restrictive boxed attitude... You have slammed the doors to opportunity and reality... Your life is like a little box of chocolates.. without any room for any more sweets... To me, that's "living in hell"...

That boxed attitude also indicates that your love making techniques are likely "set in stone"... You aren't open to anything different... You've found a little string of things that worked to fulfill each step in bringing you to a cum, and now that's exactly the ways things must go with you, or you will make yourself upset and angry... It's probably a list, posted on the bedroom mirror... I bet your body is laced with spots that are off-limits for your lover to touch, because one day those spots got hurt, and now to touch them turns you off, like you are dying on your feet, and back...
I can see it now.. "Ten minutes kissing the lips.. one minute kissing the right side of the neck.. five minutes working the tits.. 20-seconds licking the belly button.. ten minutes fingering the vag with the Proper finger.. insert the dinkie slow and easy, then jump on it like a jack hammer.. and don't you Dare! stop, or you get none for a whole week!".. etcetera etcetera... "Come when I call Boy!.. or Else!"
It's like you've written your little booklet of life to it's completion, and have determined that's all there is to being a human and life, as if there's no more new to explore... It's like you are living in a coffin... You would be such a boring person to be with, that one with you would probably feel that they are still and all-ways alone...

Are you so mindless that you can't figure out a quote when it only has the
(")'s surrounding it..? Better you wake up and reach to the More girl, before a tornado happens on your head, and you runs into a crumbling building to escape it...

What would you do in these instances..?

You are strolling near the beach, and you turns a corner, and an a zoo escaped tiger is there three feet from you..?

You are on the beach, and you glance back to see a hundred foot wave coming at you..?

A car slams into a telephone pole, and it and its sparking wires are coming down right at you..?

A knock happens at the front door, at 3:AM, a minute after the sound of a couple gunshots in the street awakes you..?

You meet a beautiful man who is so adept in the ways of love making, that he would make all the world's greatest lovers sit down and take notes, and now he is touching you in ways you have never experienced..?

What would you do if things didn't fit your preset ideals and parameters on how things should go..? You would reject love and spontaneity, and you would lose.. perfection would run and hide from you... Death would be drooling over your life...


I reading: "Nya Nya Nya, and thhT!.. I hate cosmicb and toemas cuz they don't use the established quoting formula that I have become accustomed to"...

I bet you live by the "this is the way we wash our clothes" american ditty...
I hope you bathe more times a week than only the pre-establishes Friday, as is set in the ditty...


Hope it didn't hurt your feelings babe.. and should you react to some of it in the positive, it may come to pass that one day it modified your attitude enough to save your life from an untimely demise when confronted by a rash new dangerous situation... Toss away your silly little booklet, and open yourself to the universes of Life and New.. Crawl out of your little "coffin of life"...

Makes me wonder.. Have you prepaid your coffin, head-stone, and grave-plot..? I wonders if you are an elementary-school teacher..?

There's more to life than what you've experienced... Open your senses to some new while there still is some of the young you left, or you will be old before your time...

[cosmicB]

I'll take a hike if you dont mind.

I am relieved, and lucky... Have a nice walk hun, and don't look back!..

[Nameless]

Having read some of the countless posts on this thread, it has made me realise how fortunate I am to NOT be circumcised, expecially as I recall an incident with some sort of medical person, in which it was almost decided that my foreskin was too tight.

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

[Polgara69]

Er...let me think........nope.

[AussieAdam]

Cosmic F*** off you would look for a row if you were alone on a desert island....

Time this thread died......but then I guess it wont because people dont read other peoples posts.

The same old questions are being raised and the same answers are given... This thread is like a record going round and round and round. zzzzzzzz

Thats my last post on this thread lol its becoming silly lol

[The Colonel]

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

Er...let me think........nope.

Your response Polly confirms exactly what I have been saying all along. Complete selfishness and disregard for others.

Not noble qualities at all.

[cosmicB]

AussieAdam wrote:
Cosmic you would look for a row if you were alone on a desert island....

Time this thread died......but then I guess it wont because people dont read other peoples posts.

The same old questions are being raised and the same answers are given... This thread is like a record going round and round and round. zzzzzzzz

Thats my last post on this thread lol its becoming silly lol



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And I'd find one somewhere, for a row... And given I'm stranded on your ole deserted island, I'd spear what I found, and skin it, and cook it slowly over a fire, and eat its muscles, and two of its innards, or use it as fish-bait, and do all the above to the fishes and sharks I caught...

You obviously haven't noticed.. I only "row" with those who insult and slander me and gentle innocents... I merely take the bullies into their heads to where they concocted their little nasties, and I expose their vile trait, and send it right back to source... You bully babies seem to think you can insult someone, "gently", and everything is OK with that, cuz you can get away with it on the Net.. But when it comes back at you, you run sobbing to mummy...


"round and round and round".. What is it in a thread which you require for us to entertain you as you wish it be, like your mummy used to do..? What's your favorite fairytale?..

"Your last post here".. oh yay!.. thanks... But I bet you'll be back with new insults, and the same old ones... You are just upset that you've run out of insults...

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I think you're upset with the statement: "Assie!.. Ohhh quit kissing bouncy's bum so enthusiastically!.." because it too true...

I bet I hit some of your personal problems, in bounce's advice post... Maybe you have a Big problem with anything done out of the norm, out of the box... Everything has to be on the shelf, in its own distinct little slot, or it becomes extremely confusing, and rejected right off... That's a dangerous trait there miss bounce.. One day your life might fully depend upon your reflex abilities to be spontaneous.. and if the danger doesn't fit any predesignated parameters, you would fail to react in time with a sudden new formula, resulting in personal damage, and loss, and even death... You are playing with Fire in sticking to such a restrictive boxed attitude... You have slammed the doors to opportunity and reality... Your life is like a little box of chocolates.. without any room for any more sweets... To me, that's "living in hell"...

I bet you don't make love... I bet you aren't open to anything different.. that you've found a little string of things that worked to fulfill each step in bringing you to a cum, and now that's exactly the ways things must go with you, or you will make yourself upset and angry... It's probably a list, posted on the bedroom mirror... I bet your body is laced with spots that are off-limits for your lover to touch, because one day those spots got hurt, and now to touch them turns you off, like you are dying on your feet, and knees...
I can see it now.. "Ten minutes kissing the lips.. one minute kissing the right side of the neck.. five minutes working the tits.. 20-seconds licking the belly button.. ten minutes fingering the vag with the Proper finger.. insert the dinkie slow and easy, then jump on it like a jack hammer.. It's like you've written your little booklet of life to it's completion, and have determined that's all there is to being a human and life, as if there's no more new to explore... It's like you are living in a coffin... You would be such a boring person to be with, that one with you would probably feel that they are still and all-ways alone... I bet you see that in your self now, and it frightens you.. so now you are trying to run away from yourself, to hide the truth from yourself...

What would you do if things didn't fit your preset ideals and parameters on how things should go..? You would reject love and spontaneity, and you would lose.. perfection would run and hide from you... Death would be drooling over your life...

Toss away your silly little booklet, and open yourself to the universes of Life and New.. Crawl out of your little "coffin of life"...

Makes me wonder.. Have you prepaid your coffin, head-stone, and grave-plot..? I wonders if you are an elementary-school teacher..?

There's more to life than what you've experienced... Open your senses to some new while there still is some of the young you left, or you will be old before your time...

I bet you can't handle any truth... You're just upset that this is too much reality for you to process... I wouldn't have posted Anything at all to you, if you hadn't attacked me so aggressive and hard with your asinine posts in this and other forums and threads, suckie...



This thread will go on for as long as there is war... The moment peace happens, this thread will cease to exist...

[Polgara69]

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

Er...let me think........nope.

Your response Polly confirms exactly what I have been saying all along. Complete selfishness and disregard for others.

Not noble qualities at all.

Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatised, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I dont think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

[The Colonel]

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

Er...let me think........nope.

Your response Polly confirms exactly what I have been saying all along. Complete selfishness and disregard for others.

Not noble qualities at all.

Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatised, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I dont think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

You still fail to see the implications of your preference.

The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better.

As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys.

Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

[AprilJune]

That's such a stupid way to think. That means men shouldn't enjoy having sex with women because 1 in 4 of them are sexually violated before the age of 16.

[cosmicB]

"Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatized, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I don't think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isn't it? Get it?"

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And: "You still fail to see the implications of your preference.

The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better.

As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys.

Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?"


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Both are right...

In pol's boyfriend's story, he had the surgery done with respect and anesthetic... He probably lost a lot of sensitivity.. but he is cleaner and his tool is prettier, and more desirable to women, and probably to men too...

In the case of babies, who have no say in the matter, the culture runs the newborn through Hell!.. causing as much pain as medially possible, for christinsanity to play its game, in conditioning the kid to their insane abomination to program it to be an avid tither, in how the little circumcision priest and nun do their kindness thing to the kid to make it as if it was religion that took the pain away... It's vile.. it's evil.. it's insane.. it's abuse to life on a scale I still can't fully comprehend... And it's done by those who proclaim that sexuality and nudity and baby-molesting is absolute evil...
It's christianity that needs be seen for what it is, a money sucking scam reimplemented and maintained by fags... Religion needs be liquidated, and flushed out of humanity, like the great stinky turd evil it is... Wake up people!.. Religion is all just a fag's money sucking Scam, no different than the internet Nigerian money scams... Religion is how those Nigerian scammers got their MO... Haven't you noticed how they use a lot of religious dogma, and religious messages, in their scam letters... And they often end their scam letters with "god bless"... And they nearly always claim that their source was an avid christian... They take their game out of religion's game, for the same result... But in the case of religion, they are causing extreme trauma to our babies.. maybe hundreds per day... And you mindless christian parents just look the other way while the demons are hurting your babies to the ninth... You asshole parents should be forced to be there with the surgeon when he molests your babies.. and you and the press should be there when the circumcision priests and nuns do their thing with the anesthetic laced vaseline, and their programing the kid for their money sucking scam thing... They literally grind-up the mind of a newborn, so it will provide their vile establishment with 10%n of its earnings throughout its sorry mindless life... It's the extreme pain the child is run through that destroys its mind... It is christianity through circumcision that is ripping the mind out of humanity, caring only for humanity's money, to maintain the 2000-year old free ride group fagot's wine and cheese party at the careless expense of the life, intellect, and evolution, of humanity... Religion has even put the brakes on evolution, to prevent any significant change from occurring, so there will be a place in the future for their scam... Essentially religion, through circumcision, has doomed humanity to an early extinction in having ripped the minds out of babies... It goes: "Welcome to your new world and life new baby.. Here! feel the worst Pain you will ever know, and don't forget that god wants some of your money!".. and he will take the pain away with this vaseline... No doubt the nun applies the anesthetic to the kids flaming dinkie... That as far as I can get to the memory of circumcision... The rest is nearly like being "burned alive at the stake".. the memory is clouded by a wall of flame and memory of pain so extreme, that there isn't anything else there... I look at that memory, and I Know I've been damaged, somehow, but I can't get into it to repair the mess they did to me when I was an infant, neither can any of you...

I rambled away with all that, so I could say this... If humanity didn't realize that babies feel pain, till 50-years ago.. and it is so obvious that babies do feel pain.. why did they not see it..? Who set the standards that babies were to be circumcised without anesthetic?.. given that christianity needs the kid's pain to implement it's conditioning procedure..? This deserves some in depth research, to determine how mankind was lead to believe that babies don't feel pain.. and to determine who did what to maintain that belief... It's got to be in the records somewhere somehow... How did religion convince medical science to circumcise wee babies without the use of any anesthetics..? Religion needs that pain be present to do its thang to the kid's mind...
Why can't you see it?.. How can you be so stupid?.. Oh!. they did it to you too... They melted your psyche with all that circumcisional pain... "They peeled your dic for god..." Actually they peeled your dic to program you to be subservient to their insanity, for you to need to give them your money... Ever notice, they need to forever be reinforcing the scam, on TV, and in places where you worship their scam, where they collect your monies, to live the free ride, like parasites stuck to the now mindless masses... Religion is at war with our newborns, and no one is defending our babies from the evils of that war... It's been a 2000-year long war against our babies, and it Must Be Stopped!.. It is Evil as evil gets, to cause babies that much unwarranted pain... I know about that pain, I've been through it... I am fighting for humanity's babies.. no one else is... no one else can see as I see... I sees it as it is, and I tells it like I sees it... Sorry if it offends you, but sometimes the truth hurts, but nothing can hurt as much as what they do to your baby's very most sensitive nerves, when those nerves are there very most sensitive... Why don't they mace the kid's eyes too..? or poke out and eye, and shove a red hot . up its arse..? Why don't they chop off a few fingers..? Well, I had a couple fingertips blasted off when some high explosive detonated in my hand... It wasn't much pain, about a tenth of what circumcision holds... They don't chop fingers off newborns cuz it's just not enough pain for their conditioning thing to work... I bet they install an "opus-d parasite in the baby, behind those closed doors... I bet it's an eight inch long cosmic-worm with a four inch head... I bet its eggs are in their communion disks... I bet christianity is the proverbial "Satan", hiding behind its empty declarations of heaven and love...

Christianity! Cease molesting and torturing our precious Babies!.. Find an alternative money source, or go back to Hell!..

Why does the nun and priest do their thing to the kid behind closed doors, with no witnesses..? Does the priest suck the kid's dic a bit, in an attempt to initiate it into homosexuality, and deeper into dogma..? Is it christianity that turns our kids into fags..? I say treat our babies proper if you must peel their penises.. Use anesthetics as much as required to make it a totally absolutely painless procedure, and be damned sure the child feels no pain during the whole healing process.. and keep those god damned demon nuns and priests away from your babies... That's the key hold christianity has on our and your lives... That's where their control starts... Cut that out, and eventually religion will crumble into dust, to be flushed out of humanity for the vile turd and scam it really only is... Religion is dragging us into an early extinction... See it!...


I am truly sorry to be always harping on this christinsanity topic, but something must be done to wrench humanity from the devil's grasp.. and almost no one seems to have the capacity to even begin to see the reality of it... Religion burned your minds out...
If we don't fix things, humanity Will go extinct soon... And this little bit of bitching is all I can do.. They stripped away all I had to do anything for anything with... They destroyed my education.. they destroyed my family.. they destroyed my ability to earn money.. They destroyed my life, to prevent me from finding and sharing the truth with you... So now that you know a tiny bit of the truth there is nothing you can do with it... You think me to be crazy by religion's standards.. religion defends its insanity to maintain its hold on your wallets and you baby's dics... I just can't help you out of your hell.. I've run out of ideas, and all I'm doing now is repeating myself... It's irritating to you, as it is to me... I should be a great scientist, in my laboratory, building thousands of new things to make your lives better.. but religion put the brakes on me... Now I've got nothing in this world... I am absolutely nothing in your world...
I keep repeating: There is 90% more reality than what you've been taught... Religion restricts you to 7% of reality.. just enough to maintain you alive as good slaves... They suck out as much of your lives and blood and money as they can without out you complaining too much.. leaving you with just enough for you to remain alive for their bullshit god-project scam money sucking business...


They are molesting and torturing your Babies...
Protect your babies from the evil ones...
Animals protect their babies from harm.. Why doesn't humanity do the same..?

[Polgara69]

I'd be surprised if some of the women who prefer the circumcised look have not re-evaluated their position, having thought more about what actally happens during circumcision and the trauma that can be associated with it.

Er...let me think........nope.

Your response Polly confirms exactly what I have been saying all along. Complete selfishness and disregard for others.

Not noble qualities at all.

Call me selfish and un noble all you like but my posts have been based on my boyfriends penis which he had done as a teen, his choice, he is not traumatised, he likes it and he even thinks its cleaner than before. Not based on all men getting it done. I am not advocating world wide circumcision. I dont think all babies should have it done as a matter of course. I just like my boyfriends better than others I might have had. Which is the question at the start of this post isnt it? Get it?

You still fail to see the implications of your preference.

The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better.

As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys.

Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

As I dont live in the uS then I dont think that applies to me. As I said, I am dont advocate world wide circumcision. I just like it cos of this particular boyfriend. End of.

[Emily B]

You still fail to see the implications of your preference. The vast majority of women in the US have a preference because they know no better. As a result they harm their uncut men - and their little boys. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

Little Miss Colonel, you are still trying to hijack this thread, which is about what do mature women PREFER, trimmed or not trimmed. The clear result, from hundreds of replies here, and from the included survey, is that very few women prefer the natural dick (less than 10%). Since a man's dick also belongs to his woman, that makes a lot of sense, since she is also concerned about the health of the unit. That may be the reason so many British women emigrate to the USA where people are a little more advanced on this topic. The alternative in the UK (for a woman who prefers the circumcised dick) is to become a muslim since there's so few sanitized dicks amongst the native British male population. It's off to America for lovers of the streamlined dick.

Just because you can't stand the thought of circumcising infant boys (which is not unusual amongst young women like yourself) is no reason to keep trying to push this thread in another direction unrelated to the original question.