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WHATS THE BEST CAR FOR A NEW DRIVER?

Postby DEBORAH.. on Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:30 pm

hi, i just want your opinions on a decent first car. good insurance, reliability, mpg, that sort of thing. only stipulations are it must come in 5door style and have room in the boot for dogs. any advice greatly recieved

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Postby minigirl on Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:26 pm

to answer that you really need to tell us a bit more about how the car is to be used (will you be doing a lot of motorway driving for example, longish trips on ordinary roads, or just local trips) and roughly how much you're considering spending.
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Postby DEBORAH.. on Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:15 pm

well local driving mostly but i do live in the peak district so it will have some steep hills to contend with. ive been told diesels have more pulling power so i think that would be best im looking at about £2000 i like the ford focus but have been told pugs are more reliable

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Postby minigirl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:40 am

if you're going to be driving regularly in hilly districts, you don't want a car with too small an engine - probably something between 1500cc and 2 litres (or thereabouts) would be suitable. someone who drives a diesel would be able to comment on the diesel v petrol question better than i could, but as far as i understand it, the main advantage with a diesel is more to do with better fuel economy and cheaper fuel than performance or pulling power. for some reason diesel fuel is more expensive in australia, and you don't get too many diesel cars out here.

i suppose i should have asked if the dogs are big or small (i mean, you would need a bigger car to transport great danes than you would for pekinese) but, assuming the dogs are average size, here goes:

my first advice would be don't buy anything korean. once they've reached the price range you're talking about their reliability would be very suspect.

i'm not sure about car prices in england, but i think the following cars would be worth considering:

skoda octavia (or skoda felicia if your dogs are small!) - i don't have any experience with these as skoda have only just started selling cars here a few months ago after a break of around 30 years but from all reports the quality of these cars since volkswagen bought the company in 1991 is very good. i was on holiday in scotland in 2006 and couldn't help noticing the number of skodas that were being used as taxis - when you think about it, taxis need to be both cheap to buy and maintain and be reliable, so that might be a recommendation of sorts.

ford focus - i've never driven one and i don't know anyone who has one, but this could be a good choice.

vauxhall astra - this would be one on my list. pretty solidly built too, compared to some others in its class. i hired one for a week when i was in scotland and liked it.

toyota corolla - personally i can't stand toyotas but that's just my reaction to their styling (or lack of it). i know a couple of people who have corollas and they're very happy with them. from what i've heard toyotas are well built and reliable and hold their value well.

peugeot - i like peugeots but i've never driven one and i don't know anyone who has one. the only thing i've heard said against them is that their cooling systems aren't quite up to coping with the hottest summer days out here, but that wouldn't be a problem for you, as i can't imagine temperatures in the peak district would climb up to around 40 degrees centigrade and beyond....

renault - as for peugeot.

citroen - citroens can be rather quirky and appealing, but i think the ones in your price range would be less so, as the company went through a stage of building fairly ordinary cars about ten years or so ago. otherwise as for peugeot.

honda civic/accord - as for peugeot.

maybe someone else might come up with some other suggestions, but those are mine.

and what would i get if it were me? just to be different i think i'd go looking for a well maintained rover 45. yes, i know the manufacturer has gone out of business, but this in turn means that their value has dropped and you can get more for your money. if you go for one of the more upmarket variants, you'll find they have a bit more class than some of the alternatives. and there are enough of them around to ensure that spare parts should be available for some time yet. can't go looking for a rover 45 here though, as they only sold the bigger 75 in australia.

i would strongly suggest that when you find a car you want to buy that you have a mechanic (or at very least someone who knows a fair bit about cars) have a look at it before you part with your money. You can save a lot of money buying a used car, but alternatively you could end up buying someone elses problem. you don't want to be put off by things that can be fixed easily (say, if the car needs new tyres for example) and you might even be able to haggle a bit if there is something that needs to be fixed, but you don't want to buy a car that has structural rust or major mechanical problems.

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Postby minigirl on Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:25 pm

now that you passed your test, have you decided what you're getting?
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Postby UncleSam on Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:42 pm

AN AMERACAN CAR

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Postby minigirl on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:06 pm

UncleSam wrote:AN AMERACAN CAR

given that deborah lives in england, i don't know if that would be a good idea.
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Postby minigirl on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:08 pm

can anyone with some experience with french cars give some opinions on them please?
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Postby Who? on Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:13 am

I've owned a couple of peugeots and they were ok-ish. The 306 I had was under-powered though and never seemed quite right. Whenever I drove my wife's Micra it always seemed much more powerful and it was only 1 litre (against the pugs 1.4). One thing I noticed is the body panels are awful - I swear that if a fly lands on the bonnet it'll leave a dent! The two peugeots I've owned never let me down in a major way though.

My wife has now got a Citroen C3 which seems very good. A lot of space for a small car and loads of goodies for the money. Only had it for 3 months so don't know about reliability yet.
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Postby KiltyCol on Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:40 pm

Have a look round a few car dealers showrooms, have a few test drives and ask lots of questions. You will eventually find some cars that you like, some possibles and some definite "No"s. I hope that this, together with above comments will help. If you know a respected dealer, it may be worth buying from them for the reputable after sales service.
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Postby minigirl on Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:43 am

and before you commit to buying a particular car, check out the cost of insurance by making a few quick telephone calls to insurers - the cost can vary quite a bit from insurer to insurer and from car to car - even a different model of the same car can cost more to insure, especially if the car you are looking at is a sporty version, has something like "gt" in its name or if it has non-standard extras fitted.
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Postby Sharon den Adel on Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:44 pm

I don't have my licence yet, but when I do, I will be driving a small car. I don't want to drive something with a huge nose that will be hard to get into the smallest of parking spaces...
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Postby minigirl on Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:13 pm

Sharon den Adel wrote:I don't have my licence yet, but when I do, I will be driving a small car. I don't want to drive something with a huge nose that will be hard to get into the smallest of parking spaces...

that's what i kept telling myself, and i ended up with a holden commodore!
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Postby azraelle on Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:09 pm

used...
Toyota Corolla or Yaris
Subaru
Suzuki
Kia

Wouldn't own anything else as a first car. Also, would go for a stick shift--doesn't take much to learn how to use, and SO MUCH FUN to weave thru the gears after you learn, especially with the tight little Japanese 5-speed transmissions. Not to mention cheaper, and up to 20% more fuel efficient than an automatic.
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