Guest wrote:Guest wrote:Guest wrote:Oh I knew Holly would be gone after she carried the twins. Jolie's jealousy would not have it any other way. Wrote about this very subject back when it was obvious to me what was going on.
Thought the same thing. The very fact the Holly, who was formerly joined to Jolie's hip, is not around, says everything. There was deception wrt to the origin of the twins.
That doesn't quite hold up, as Holly was around after Cannes (also suspicious we thought, why not go home to have your baby in Georgia, where she lives.) She was also at the Changeling premiere, and at the Kung Fu Panda DVD release. (I am pretty sure of that-not certain though). The faxes also kept going to Transworld News, which is in Georgia, as is CNN, where Holly once worked. This is old news to the old timers, but I will repeat it again as I found it very suspicious. One thing I found on that site, among many interesting things, was a story about Pitt and Clooney "kidding around" at the TIFF red carpet. Pitt apparently said, I wouldn't have Clooney as a godfather, he hates kids."
This was after the statement Clooney made that whenever he thought he wanted kids, he would think of Pitt and it would change his mind. He also said he had not had them to visit, as it involved a lot of men with walkie talkies. He also said he could not live Pitt's life. Therefore, I found the fake remark to be quite "catty", not flattering to Clooney, and had Jolie and Holly written all over it. The kicker is of course, Clooney changed his mind about going to TIFF, so no such conversation ever took place. Obviously a fake story.
(Another background piece, which also may be old news to some of us, but there was also a story in Transworld News the night of the pre Oscar party Jolie and Pitt didn't show at, while Jennifer did as usual, and she was acting as a host, or opener that night. )They debuted "the bump" which showed up overnight earlier that day at the ridiculous inclusion of AMH as an indie film at the ISAs. Again, a shot at Jennifer as all the tabs had been talking about the "meet up", which Jennifer had said was OK with her. The organizers said they asked her before putting Pitt and Holie on as she was a long time participant. Jolie had been playing coy about pregnancy reports but made sure "the bump" was front and centre that day to make sure she got her attention, and I am sure in her mind, showed Aniston "see I am having another baby with Brad, so there".
This wasn't enough however, as there was also a report faxed in that Jennifer had snubbed George Clooney at the party. George must have better PR people than HUVANE, as he filed a rebuttal the same night, saying Jennifer was a dear friend, and that she had not snubbed him at all. There were in fact pictures of them hugging, as she was entering. I remember as I read D-Listed, and MK was saying George says he wasn't snubbed, but who said he was? It was later we found out about the site, and there was the story when I checked the archives.
There was also a very strange video someone found, and it may be gone. or will be soon! It was on a German web site, and it was quite an intrusive film, no sound, but showing them on the "stage". It was really obvious that Holly was pregnant, from the way she was leaning down, from the knees, and getting back up. Jolie however, had little discernible bump, and was popping up and down, not at all like a women seven months or more, pregnant with twins. No way at all, IMO.
The fax that went out to the internet (on a site that just existed for one day) could have been one they wrote in advance, like the Tiff story, and it got sent by accident. By rebutting it, and claiming there was a fake Holly, they would be able to discredit things like the fake and negative stories on Transworld News and wherever else they disseminate the constant brandgelina news. We have often seen the same stories printed in many places, all with the same spelling mistakes or wrong info, such as the stories that kept mixing up Changeling and Wanted. It is also possible this was just more spin on their parts, and a deliberate move to humiliate ET, and fudge the real date of the births. I think they did the same thing with Star, about the fake wedding.
Bonnie Fuller was editor then, and although I don't think much of her anymore, she used to have some standards, and required two or three sources before printing a story. (I worked at the same conglomerate as her when I was a child-or so it seems! We had pretty strict rules and Bonnie used to be very hard on staff making them get more back up).That may have changed when she went to Star, but I also read one of her requirements was that she did not want to pay sources for info. In this case they did pay a minister, who I believe changed his story, again leaving Star, like ET, looking stupid.
These are some wily operators, and they have played the media very well. It is known that Jolie "extorted" that was the phrase used on Radar when they used to be credible,$660,000 from People for the privilege of announcing she was pregnant. She insisted it be given to Wyclef Jean, who was the one she allowed to break the news officially. I would bet the reason they never confirmed she was pregnant was because they wanted to be paid for it. The tabs just printed it anyway, and Jack Black got caught in the middle when he mentioned it at Cannes, he thought it had been confirmed. There is a chance Jolie decided then and there it was twins. That might be a stretch, but in the Vanity Fair article and others, she doesn't say anywhere that she is expecting twins, nor does she give a due date. IMO, the twins look different ages, and always have. That could also be natural, but there is just a strong sense that many people have, that something about it doesn't quite fit.
A long story, but it is one that doesn't go away. I had all the sources, but they were on my old computer. Stuff is still on Transworld News, I think, but I don't know about the video clip. We were surprised at the time, that no one picked it up, but I think no one wants to rock the boat when it comes to these two. If it is true Ian Halperin and a key poster there are being threatened and having their emails hacked into, it makes you wary. Of course this is all my opinion, and statement of the stories as they were printed at the time. I have no inside knowledge on this topic!
It is always worthwhile for new eyes to review the chronology and see what you think. I saw some interesting theories at IUC, from posters there, that I hadn't thought of. It really would not be difficult to fake the whole process. I can believe that she had one child, but twins are a different story, and given the way she looked when she now says she was pregnant (think the Beowolf premier, with the poppy, the thin and depressed looking state she was in in the pictures with Brad's family after Christmas-if she got the IVF during Changeling, as she later claimed, she would have been almost three months by then, with twins, and no stomach at all. She didn't look healthy enough to sustain herself, never mind two babies. She was also reportedly drinking like a fish, and wandering NYC for long walks or looking for drugs. Lamey had a blind that sounded like Jolie saying she was in "holiday rehab" at home after one of the kids saw something distressing. Ted C said she was on something to control the addiction while pregnant. (Both blinds, of course). The fact that they were paid $14 million for these babies is another element to consider. That is a lot of cash, because for reasons that escape me, it is thought that babies from these two poor specimens of humanity are worthy of special interest.