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Postby Guest on Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:09 am

cosmicB wrote:"who created God?"


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In alchemy the matter that was there before all other matter is called the 'prima materia'. This was the original substance from which all alchemical transmutation manifested. The prima materia is the cause of all effects that occur after it is formed. It is the base matter. From the prima materia comes the first substances and from these substances comes the first minerals. The alchemist's task is to somehow separate the different aspects of the prima materia into its own material spectrum of substance.

When you blend all the colours of the rainbow together, you get black.

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Re: who created God?

Postby s 48 on Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:07 pm

The evolutionists with their uniformintarian doctrine (the belief that all processes on earth have continued at the same rate, without interruption, change of pace, contamination or affect by other processes for billions of years) and with no Bible--but instead a multitude of writings by men we are taught to respect in luxurious universities. They are the new pastors and evangelists of this age with their apostle and prophet Charles Darwin. Evolution--The foundation and "proof" for the faith of atheism--which does BELIEVE that there is NO GOD (because no one can prove for certain the existence or the non existence of a creator) and that we are created by random chance and mutation. They BELIEVE that the sun has continued burning with the power of 100,000,000 hydrogen bombs a second for over 4 billion years and that itself formed as a result of chance and forces of the universe (how the forces got here is not explained to us) and these forces however great they are have no intelligence or being. They believe that the planets have circled the sun for over 4 billion years without leaving their orbits or falling into the sun, and yet we intelligent creatures cannot keep a satellite for 10 years in orbit without means of propulsion and adjustment in course. I see no rockets on the planet which would serve to keep us in orbit for 4 billion years.

DNA is made of protein and yet it takes DNA to produce protein. Which came first apostle Darwin --DNA or protein. Oh yes I forgot--if your current "fact" doesn't fit, then we'll come to another conclusion!!! What a brilliant way to deny the obvious. That something is greater than us and is the Cause. Newton's 2nd law of thermodynamics says that left alone all systems and processes tend to break down. Yet evolution says that it all happened by greater and greater organization!! Newton's 1st law is for every action there is equal and opposite reaction. The reaction is the universe today, but no one was here to see the initial Action. And it was a mind bending and unimaginable action.

Multi-layered and interdependent bio-systems and eco-systems are seen and proven by operational (not historical) science everyday. The mathematical probability of the super complexity of a single protein happening by some chance event is insurmountable. Let alone the millions of proteins it takes to form DNA which makes a reproducible code of life. Times insurmountable by unattainable and you have the product of probability that DNA happened by chance. Then to have all the other materials there to keep it alive and working, and materials there to form all the systems of a single celled animal or plant. Then what did it eat--it had to eat?!!! If it was first there was nothing else there organic to eat (even if it was a single celled plant it had to have organic materials to grow). But since evolution must be true a whole multitude of single cells must have evolved at the same time==right. THen they ate each other until they split. This must have gone on for at least 100,000 years until one of them mutated into a hydra--but alas he had no one to mate with so two of them happened at the same time. Yes thats it!!

My friends, it only gets more complex from there. Yet this evolutionary doctrine is forced upon us in state funded schools and universities from the time we learn science.
The media comes right along behind with its promotion of the scientists who author this world-wide propaganda. And the scientists who don't agree with evolution--who see all the holes (and there are many, enough to make it in probability impossible), are touted off as weirdos, religion promoting eccentrics. All men think--all men see the evidence--not all have money, position, and promotion. If the world lies then truth tellers will be seen as crazy.

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Re: who created God?

Postby The Colonel on Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:37 am

You are one hell of a fucktard. You just can't STAND that your bible is false can you. :roll:

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Re: who created God?

Postby Guest on Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:06 am

The Colonel wrote:You are one hell of a fucktard. You just can't STAND that your bible is false can you. :roll:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3XmlR7XKA


You don't get it do you. It takes just as much or more faith to believe your impossibly improbable theory that all the powers, forces, laws, and life came from nowhere and impersonal chaos to an organized system that we can't even fathom.

Also you guys got the ball now. You get the microphone--the schools, the universities, the media, a majority of (not all) modern scientists. So now you get the scrutiny, just like the Bible has been scrutinized for the last 150 years. Even your prophets, the evolutionary scientists, can't agree, nor can they explain the gaps in the fossil record. Just because someone prints a picture of a dinosaur with feathers doesn't mean they had feathers. There is not one dinosaur fossil that has feathers on it. Your scientists don't even agree on the point that birds descended from dinosaurs! Just read them if you don't believe me. Neither can they explain why the supposedly older fossils are on the higher layers which are supposed to be more recent. Nor can they explain why there is a sudden cambian layer that suddenly has fossils in it (and lower ones don't have anything), as if life suddenly appeared. Where are all the transitional forms that led up to those fossils. The layers in the earth are not so cut and dry like your textbooks show you. Also there are whole illustrations based on a few bones (some of them have none), some of which are later disputed or shown to be something else as was originally thought. Yet the textbooks continue to show the same illustrations because "evolution must have happened." We've had 150 years of digging in the ground and there are no or little evidence of transitional forms. There should be tons of transitional forms after 3.5 billion years.

I've got alot more, but chew on that for a while. i'm simply stating the holes, contradictions, and absolute nonsense in your atheistic theory--which is taught non-stop as "fact" to kids who have never even heard a creation science presentation!! You have probably never heard the research done at Mt. Saint Helens which gives multiple evidence of large canyons that were formed in days by lava flows, which expose layers sedimentary rocks. It didn't take millions of years of a river eroding the canyon away as is taught. This research is done by Harvard PHDs who hold to a young earth theory, and know evolution like the back of their hand. Chew on that!

Furthermore, I really don't want to hear your emotional outbursts, but lets hear your evidence!!

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Re: your false god does NOT exist

Postby Guest on Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:40 am

pk wrote:
drew wrote:christian view - hes allways been there for ever just there no exsplanation

my view - if there is a god dono how he got there but i dont think there is


Oh, please.........

Ok all you believers....... PROVE to me beyond ANY doubt that your so-called god exists.

Man (or in my case woman) has always falsely had the need to believe in a totally imaginary "higher being" or "god"....... and this goes back to all the ancient civilisations you can think of........ they all had imaginary beings which they referred to as "gods".

If your "god" exists why did he/she allow events such as the london bombings to occur? why did he/she allow such suffering?

9/11? You deserved it america for being such a nation of self centred conceited overweight halfwits


First, you seem to be quite angry. Why I don't know.

Second, if God told you why about London would you believe Him. You would probably ask Him for his ID.

Third, you are a believer also. You believe there is no god. But you cant prove there is no god. And though there is no "proof" per se--there is plenty of evidence. One only need to look at it with an open mind. If you really think that the only things that exist are what you can see with your eyes--then you are quite arrogant. We small little creatures like to think we have it all figured out, but we are specs who live on a spec. And think because we finally figured out a few little secrets about how the universe works that we are god. But we cant in a million years reproduce its power, life and magnificence. Only One who is unseen can do that, and if He revealed himself as He truly is would destroy us by His very presence.

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Re: who created God?

Postby The Colonel on Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:25 am

What a load of crap. :roll:
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Re: who created God?

Postby cosmicB on Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:40 am

It doesn't need to, "destroy us with its presence"... We're already doing that, without its presence...

What the monk's believe of "god" is but a trillionth of it... "It" being the rest of Life you aren't aware of...
Thing is, your conditioning doesn't permit you to look at any truth, to see any more of your god than the Insane permit you to see...
Essentially your religions are perverting & preventing you from making any connection with the "god-force"...
Essentially your more crazy religions are "Satan's face hiding behind a church faรงade".. just there to suck the money out of your life, so lazy old faggots can live the luxury life at the expense of the mindless-masses, whilst sucking on each-others crotches.. and occasionally molesting our babies whenever they believe they can get away with it... Maybe that's where most missing children have ended up.. As unwilling sex-toys for violent religious preachers, who assaulted, murdered, ate, and buried, our missing babies, to hide evidence of religious crimes... Maybe grave-yards should be magnetometer scanned through the ground, to locate the bones of those innocents likely hidden in bottom dirt of freshly dug coffin-holes awaiting tomorrow funerals...
If priests are insane enough to sexually molest our children, then they are insane enough to cannibalize them too... The question is, where did the priests hide the bones of our missing murdered babies..?

The first key to determine is, how many families of missing children prescribed to the same church diocese.. and minister, or priest..?

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Re: who created God?

Postby s48 on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:06 am

Thank you for your opinion. I would be nice to discuss this subject without so much anger and insults. Especially since--IF there is a God or god he might be interested or even love what he has created. It wouldn't be all bad if there is a God as this would imply purpose to our lives. I'm not talking about church or organized religion, but God.

Atheists are asking for "proof." So what i'm trying to communicate is evidence for God in His creation. I am not a scientist but this is what scientists say, and not all of them are evolutionists. Anyone can read the on both sides. There are more than a few PHD's out there that are not convinced evolution is the answer. And there is no middle ground. Either the universe happened by chance through unintelligent processes or it was acted upon and caused--created by an intelligence.

There are many design implications especially on the cellular level. It is more than striking to consider what is going on in our cells. Each strand of DNA in each of our billions of cells has the equivalent of a gigabyte of information. That is amazing that that much info is in the microscopic nucleus of the cell. Then all the multitude of functions and microscopic entities carrying out the growth and maintenance of all the many parts of the cell. Of the which I am not qualified to speak on, but there is plenty of literature on it. The documentary titled "Expelled" came out in theaters in 2008. It contains a computer animation of whats happening in a cell. AMAZING!! It looks like a science fiction movie in there--like an enormous living machine. Or you can find it on http://www.answersingenesis.com

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Re: who created God?

Postby s48 on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:09 am

I'm sorry--that website is www.answersingenesis.org

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Re: who created God?

Postby cosmicB on Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:39 am

The only proof religions have of the existence of a god, is in words and 2 millenniums of disjointed hearsay, and stuff scratched by winos onto parchment.. just fairytales, written by ancient, drug & booze intoxicated, sci-fi writers, and story-tellers of the time, who knew only basic animal instinct & survival, and a little-bit about the value of treasure, and how to exploit money...

Your gods, and proof-of, are only the words you use to pretend to describe your imaginary god's personality and image... Remove the words, and your god vanishes into nothingness from whence it came...

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Re: who created God?

Postby The Colonel on Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:54 pm

s48 wrote:Thank you for your opinion. I would be nice to discuss this subject without so much anger and insults. Especially since--IF there is a God or god he might be interested or even love what he has created. It wouldn't be all bad if there is a God as this would imply purpose to our lives. I'm not talking about church or organized religion, but God.

Atheists are asking for "proof." So what i'm trying to communicate is evidence for God in His creation. I am not a scientist but this is what scientists say, and not all of them are evolutionists. Anyone can read the on both sides. There are more than a few PHD's out there that are not convinced evolution is the answer. And there is no middle ground. Either the universe happened by chance through unintelligent processes or it was acted upon and caused--created by an intelligence.

There are many design implications especially on the cellular level. It is more than striking to consider what is going on in our cells. Each strand of DNA in each of our billions of cells has the equivalent of a gigabyte of information. That is amazing that that much info is in the microscopic nucleus of the cell. Then all the multitude of functions and microscopic entities carrying out the growth and maintenance of all the many parts of the cell. Of the which I am not qualified to speak on, but there is plenty of literature on it. The documentary titled "Expelled" came out in theaters in 2008. It contains a computer animation of whats happening in a cell. AMAZING!! It looks like a science fiction movie in there--like an enormous living machine. Or you can find it on http://www.answersingenesis.com


Idiot.

You are not worth the effort.

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Re: who created God?

Postby cosmicB on Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:31 pm

Each DNA molecule contains the codes to all the life in this universe... All we need to do is learn to communicate with DNA to view its memory video... All it takes to communicate with DNA is a well connected fully open mind, and lots of love...

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Re: who created God?

Postby The Colonel on Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:22 pm

s48 wrote:I'm sorry--that website is http://www.answersingenesis.org


There are no answers in there.

If evolution is false, and staying with your idea of cells answer this:

How come bacteria (e.g. MRSA) which was killed by certain antibiotics is now IMMUNE to those antibiotics?

How EXACTLY has it CHANGED?

Answer: It has adapted to its environment in order to survive - EVOLUTION.

What a thick S*** you must be. :roll:
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Re: who created God?

Postby dudeski on Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:40 pm

cosmicB wrote:Each DNA molecule contains the codes to all the life in this universe... All we need to do is learn to communicate with DNA to view its memory video... All it takes to communicate with DNA is a well connected fully open mind, and lots of love...


Hi, there.

I'd like to ask, if I may, what are the specific concepts you disagree with?

For example, do you disagree that creatures adapt to their environment? Or are you more disagreeing in the 'micro/macro' framework?

P.S. -- it's not that each molecule contains the codes. It's that each DNA strand *is* code, a set of instructions, that can be written in such a way that every possible combination of life can be 'grown' using that DNA as the instruction set.

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Re: who created God?

Postby dudeski on Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:44 pm

As to the thread's main question --

I, personally, don't know if there is a god, and I don't see any evidence that anyone else knows either. In fact the folks who believe there is a god are always clear they accept that only as a matter of "faith", without any actual evidence.

It is possible, but I'm a 'show me' kind of guy who would need to see solid proof of anything so important before believing it.

I have great respect for people of faith. I personally just need more than that, on the 'big' questions of the nature of reality.

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