Who would Jesus kill?

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:43 pm

mogadishu wrote:Of course I'm not :roll: (that's an ad hominem attack btw)

They don't specify any action, any fact, so it's impossible to be able to say whether their facts are right or wrong. A basic truth wihcih seems to have eluded you.

and of course "Christianity in Germany bears a greater responsibility before God than the National Socialists, the SS, and the Gestapo." is a value judgment. My point was, as you (fallaciously) implied the scholars you quoted were above reproach in virtue of being scholars (or Jewish) or whatever, I quoted a (world renowned) scholar to demonstarte that scholarly opinion on this subject was not uniform.

Where do I call Sharett a liar?

Again, I did not only quote scholars. I quoted leaders who referred to events and actions of which they had contemporaneous knowledge.

The quote you posted from the so-called "world renowned" scholar -- not in history obviously -- is a naked value judgment with zero factual support.

And where did you call Sharret a liar?
"The state of Israel must invent dangers"
"That ... doesn't make him a liar"
hmmm :lol:

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:45 pm

mogadishu wrote:Of course I'm not :roll: (that's an ad hominem attack btw)

They don't specify any action, any fact, so it's impossible to be able to say whether their facts are right or wrong. A basic truth wihcih seems to have eluded you.

and of course "Christianity in Germany bears a greater responsibility before God than the National Socialists, the SS, and the Gestapo." is a value judgment. My point was, as you (fallaciously) implied the scholars you quoted were above reproach in virtue of being scholars (or Jewish) or whatever, I quoted a (world renowned) scholar to demonstarte that scholarly opinion on this subject was not uniform.

Where do I call Sharett a liar?

If "scholarly opinion on this subject [is] not uniform," how can you make unequivocal accusations of complicity in genocide?

That, my friend, is called defamation. :wink:

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Postby mogadishu on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:00 pm

. wrote:
If "scholarly opinion on this subject [is] not uniform," how can you make unequivocal accusations of complicity in genocide?

That, my friend, is called defamation. :wink:


No ... scholarly opinion is divided on every major subject. If it had to be uniform, we couldn't talk about anything.

"That ... doesn't make him a liar"


Those are your words. I'm quoting yiour words back to you.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:03 pm

Again, I did not only quote scholars. I quoted leaders who referred to events and actions of which they had contemporaneous knowledge.


yes... and they didn't specify any facts either.

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Postby mogadishu on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:05 pm

Anyway.... I have a lot of important things to do.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:11 pm

mogadishu wrote:Anyway.... I have a lot of important things to do.

Like burning a few churches? :lol:

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Postby mogadishu on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:20 pm

Well, that's just an incredibly stupid remark to make. :roll:

Goodbye.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:31 pm

mogadishu wrote:Well, that's just an incredibly stupid remark to make. :roll:

Goodbye.

There you go with more ad hominem. :shock:

I must have touched a nerve. :lol:

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:42 pm

Nope.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:44 pm

mogadishu wrote:that's the first ad hominem attack I've made against you. before i did so, you called me

1. antichrisitian
2. bigot
3. knave
4. a fool
5. an ignoramus

all this verbal abuse I withstood. so your suddenly deciding ad hominem attacks are bad is adeeply hypocritical stance. It is ridiculous. :wink:

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Postby mogadishu on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:47 pm

Like burning a few churches?


suggesting someone burns churches is, of course, a particularly vile form of ad hominem. but of course, do as you say, not as you do... :wink:

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Postby Guest on Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:44 am

mogadishu wrote:
Like burning a few churches?

suggesting someone burns churches is, of course, a particularly vile form of ad hominem. but of course, do as you say, not as you do... :wink:

It would be consistent with your evident anti-Christian bigotry. :wink:

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Postby mogadishu on Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:15 pm

troll. don't feed.

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Postby third or forth guest on Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:08 pm

mogadishu wrote:troll. don't feed.


Seriously, how could you avoid being called a bigot when you quote from an organization called "Freedom from religion"?

Bigot he said and bigot you are.

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Postby Guest on Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:59 pm

mogadishu wrote:Jesus was a pacifist - that's the bottom line. You're twisiting his doctrine of love on rather spurious grounds to try and advocate war.


I don't think anything in the bible forces pacifism as the only path a Christian can take.

1) A shepherd will protect his flock, even to killing wolves.
2) Endorsing evil through a choice of non-action is evil too.

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