why is BAG so shallow

[Blond Adult Girl]

You didn't answer my question: if its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views?

Like I said, you only think in terms of right or wrong. Thus you can't comprehend why I, or anyone else would call you out on your views. Im not going to try to explain it to you, because you wouldn't understand anyway. Perhaps Mr A would like to chime in and break it down for you??

Yeah, thats what i thought: claim thats its "too complicated" in an effort to save face and not answer the question, a question which has you trapped.

BAG, show me evidence of when you have EVER understood something I've explained to you, and then I might be willing to try. I dont explain things to you anymore because you never understand them... because they are apparently too "complicated" for you. So why should I continue to waste my time trying?

First you claim its too complicated, and now you're being a troll and an effort to switch the subject.

You must think you're oh-so-clevor.

You are trapped by my question, and now you're delving in to your bag of tricks in an effort to change the subject. That ain't happening!

Now, please tell me: if its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views?

[Amnesia]

Show me an example of where you've understood something that I've had to explain to you, and I'd be more than happy to give you an explanaition.

[Blond Adult Girl]

Show me an example of where you've understood something that I've had to explain to you, and I'd be more than happy to give you an explanaition.

The only thing you've had to "explain" to me in any sort of detail is your "faccilitation of the crime" line.

Care to answer my question now?: if its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views

[Amnesia]

Show me an example of where you've understood something that I've had to explain to you, and I'd be more than happy to give you an explanaition.

The only thing you've had to "explain" to me in any sort of detail is your "faccilitation of the crime" line.

Care to answer my question now?: if its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views

And I still don't think you get it. Prove to me that you understood the concept of our discussion as it applied to gun control.

[Blond Adult Girl]

Show me an example of where you've understood something that I've had to explain to you, and I'd be more than happy to give you an explanaition.

The only thing you've had to "explain" to me in any sort of detail is your "faccilitation of the crime" line.

Care to answer my question now?: if its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views

And I still don't think you get it. Prove to me that you understood the concept of our discussion as it applied to gun control.

You only think that your answer is "too complicated." You just don't want to answer my question, because you KNOW that your trapped.

I'm going to keep on asing you until you answer: If its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views?

[Amnesia]

That tacktic doesn't work with me. Im not going to explain anything to you until you prove that you can actually grasp one of my explanaitions. Otherwise, someone else can explain it for you.

[Blond Adult Girl]

That tacktic doesn't work with me. Im not going to explain anything to you until you prove that you can actually grasp one of my explanaitions. Otherwise, someone else can explain it for you.

I'm not going to explain anything to you until you answer my question.
Besides, nobody else even knows what your talking about in regards to this answer that is supposedly "too complicated." Only you can explain it.

If its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views?

[Amnesia]

That tacktic doesn't work with me. Im not going to explain anything to you until you prove that you can actually grasp one of my explanaitions. Otherwise, someone else can explain it for you.

I'm not going to explain anything to you until you answer my question.
Besides, nobody else even knows what your talking about in regards to this answer that is supposedly "too complicated." Only you can explain it.

I think just about anyone reading this thread could explain it.

I'm not going to explain anything to you until you answer my question.
Then I guess we've reached a stalemate then havent we?

[Blond Adult Girl]

That tacktic doesn't work with me. Im not going to explain anything to you until you prove that you can actually grasp one of my explanaitions. Otherwise, someone else can explain it for you.

I'm not going to explain anything to you until you answer my question.
Besides, nobody else even knows what your talking about in regards to this answer that is supposedly "too complicated." Only you can explain it.

I think just about anyone reading this thread could explain it.

I'm not going to explain anything to you until you answer my question.
Then I guess we've reached a stalemate then havent we?

I guess we have, but only because you made it like that.

I still don't think that anyone knows what your talking about in regards to this answer that is supposedly "too compliacated." Lets give this thread a 24 hour break and see if anyone-maybe Mr A-steps forward and explains it.

Peace out.

[THAT_GUEST]

I haven't gone back to read everything in this thread. There are too many flames in here to want to do that. I respect Amnesia and BAG. My take on it is this. Who she CHOOSES to have sex with are entirely up to her at the end of the day. Choice doesn't always make a bigot. When we choose sexual partners, we have our criteria, each of us. I know I don't like being second guessed, C***-blocked, or moved in on for the sake of protecting me from myself. Sex is sex, and we should at least be allowed our preferences. Blondie has taken a lot of heat for voicing her preferenc(es), and I think the time has come to move on. She does discuss other topics, and has shown she has a good sense of humor, and her own set of life experience and education to voice them. Disagree if you will, but I think it is time to leave her personal preferences insex partners alone. Go after her political beliefs if you want to...sorry doll, gotta throw a bone in the art of compromise!

Peace you two!

[rosie727]

amen T_G lets move on

[Mr A]

oh ..some people wanted to move on ..but it seems like some are waiting for me lol. ok ...ok i'll post but it's gonna be long guys ..might be a few spelling errors and stuff so bear with me

If its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man or a small dicked man, therefore making me discriminitory, according to your views?

ok this is sort of hard to explain even for me ..so i don't know if people will actually understand what i'm trying to say but...i can see where amensia is coming from when he called you out and says you are discriminating unfairly against groups of people by saying you refuse to have sex with a small dicked man or a black man ...but i can also see where bag is coming from in asking "If its not a matter of right or wrong, why ELSE would you call me out for not wanting to have sex with a black man"


discrimination. what is it?
..well there are several meanings of the word ..however in this case the discrimination we are talking about is when a person treats another person or group of people unequally/different/less favourably <----usually in a bad mannor
based on thier race, religion, sex, gender, national origin, sexual orientation, and disability.


bag stated she would refuse to have sex with a black man. She is white.
That statement made by bag does indeed sound like she is discriminating against black people, no ..the statement she made i would definately say is being discriminitory ...but taking into account what she has said in this matter from the rest of the thread (assuming she was not lying ), is bag discriminating against black people? yes or no? ...in this case i don't believe the answer is as black or white as that (no pun intended)


when asked to explain your views ...you were not doing a very good job of it to be honest bag. you tried and gave an example which was good ...but what you wrote along with the example of the black guys never being upto the job did not do much to help your cause ...and to some people may have even pushed them in the opposite way.

I saw what you might have been trying to say and had a go at explaining it myself with relation to my experiences. you seemed to agree with what i said about the whole attraction to physical features/traits ..and how much these features/traits turn up in different races, you also said you have been attracted to some black men before like will smith, usher, 50 cent. when asked why you wouldn't sleep with a black man then if you found them attractive you sound because you did not find them attractive enough

is bag discriminating? here's my view
the statement that you would not have sex with a black man is discriminating.
..however later on you basically said (by agreeing with me) you have found a black man attractive before but not enough to sleep with him because the physical traits/features did not sexually appeal to you enough for you to want to sleep with him. If this is genuinely true, and there is not another reason that you haven't disclosed then a better statement to make would have been something like this "I don't sleep with anyone i do not have a strong physical attraction to, a man with a small penis does not visually appeal to me on that level ..and whilst on occasion i have been attracted to black men in the past .. the physical attraction never has been great enough for me to want to sleep with him. therefore i would not sleep with a small dicked man or a black man"

^that is by no means perfect but if you had said something like that i think it would have gone down alot better with amnesia and others who have a low opinion of you.

I personally can not make up my mind as to whether bag i think you are discrimating or not ...part of me says yes because when you said you'd never sleep with black men you singled out an entire race ...but part of me also says if a person chooses to only sleep with people they find very attractive and said she never finds a black man appealing to her on that level and so wont sleep with them.. Is it really discrimination ?..

[Mr A]

and on a side note. if you have been sexually attracted to a black man before and weren’t lying about it then I refuse to believe you can never be sexually attracted to a black man enough to want to sleep with him.

Pure guess work here but how much men have you looked at since the age of puberty? (when you start looking at the opposite sex that way). what with magazines/media/television i'm guessing a fair amount ...but I think it's fair to say (and i'm gonna pick a number that I think is waaay over that) it's not more than 20,000 men.

now when I say "looked at" I mean had a proper look at so you can see all their facial features relatively clearly.
you are a white woman, you live I think in America in which the greater percentage of population is white. and when out and about I think it's safe to say you probably see far more white people than black people.

so far I think you'd agree that most of the assumptions/guesswork that i've made is quite reasonable?

so let’s continue. If I picked out 100 random white men aged between 20 and 30 and lined them up in front of you how much would you say you found attractive on a sexual level?
guesswork again but i'm guessing the race you are most attracted to is your own race which is white. yes?
so probably this number is gonna be alot higher than other races ...so maybe 20% of the 100 guys there is some sexual attraction, that’s 1 in 5 guys in that age group? ..Maybe a bit less maybe a bit more im guessing here

so now out of 100 we are left with 20 guys. now out of these 20 guys how much would you find attractive enough for you to want to sleep with? guess work again but im guessing maybe 5 to 10 guys.

so out of 100 random white guys aged between 20 and 30 perhaps 5-10% you might consider attractive enough to have sex with.


now lets do something similar with a black man, ..but first something to think about ..of the 20,000 men you might have looked at how many are black? you live in a mainly white country so it's fair to say that number will be quite a bit lower than white men

ok so we take 100 random black men aged between 20 and 30, bag how much do you think you would find sexually attractive?

you have in the past stated you have found black men sexually attractive ...and you gave the impression they were few and far between as these features you like aren’t particularly common amongst black men ...so were not gonna be looking at something like 20% again like with the white men ...it's gonna be alot lower.

having an intelligent guess ..Perhaps 2-3 out 100 or maybe even 1 in 100.
3 out of 100 ..breaking that down is 1 in 33 ...i'm using that as the upper limit. much more and i think we'd be getting very inaccurate results.

so at max thats something like 3%.
now of those 3% how much would you find sexually attractive enough to sleep with?
you are not easilly attracted to a black man ..as the features you like are few in far between so im guessing the number perentage wise is gonna low. so far you have more or less said you've never been sexually attracted to a black man enough to want to sleep with him so i think it's safe to say out of the 3% you find attractive there are none you find attractive enough so that 3% now becomes 0% or 0 in 100

now considering the fact that of the men you have looked at most will have been white (meaning you are looking at alot less black men then white men) and the features you find attractive amounst black men are relatively uncommon ..then taking everything into consideration logic pretty much says your chances of even finding a black guy attractive ..let alone attractive "enough" are gonna statistically be very low.

now think how much black men there out in the world, globally
I don't believe that if a person has found the opposite sex in a certain race attractive before then they can't find anybody in the race who is attractive "enough" to have sex with.

..obviously the features/look can appeal to you ..so it is just a matter of looking for someone who appeals enough

it could be of the few black men you can find attractive only 1 in 500 can appeal that bit more to make you attracted enough (I bet you've never seen even 500 black men in your life time who you were simply attracted to..and notice I said "attracted" not attracted to enough) ...or it could be 1 in 1000 of the guys you find attractive you find you are attractive enough. ..or maybe even more

my point. there are a hell of alot of people in the world ...when people make statements that single out a race or group of people it comes across as very ignorant, shallow and narrow minded. so unless you've looked at every single black man on this earth saying something like i would not have sex with a black man will always in my eye's and probably most people's eye's come off as discrimination based on race

[Amnesia]

I personally can not make up my mind as to whether bag i think you are discrimating or not ...part of me says yes because when you said you'd never sleep with black men you singled out an entire race ...but part of me also says if a person chooses to only sleep with people they find very attractive and said she never finds a black man appealing to her on that level and so wont sleep with them.. Is it really discrimination ?..

It’s not discrimination if you see everyone equally. If BAG said she’d sleep with ANY man, black, white, small dicked or not, so long as she found them attractive then she would not be discriminating. But I’ve spoken with BAG in detail about this subject, and I know her views. She doesn’t see black men, and men with small dicks in the same light that she sees other possible mates. Im not attracted to fat chicks, but I dont look at fat chicks in the same light that BAG looks at black men and men with small dicks. So regardless of her having an attraction or not, she would never see those types of people in the same regards as others. Thus she is being discriminatory.

BTW, this reply is not in direct response to you BAG. Im simply responding to Mr A’s post.

my point. there are a hell of alot of people in the world ...when people make statements that single out a race or group of people it comes across as very ignorant, shallow and narrow minded. so unless you've looked at every single black man on this earth saying something like i would not have sex with a black man will always in my eye's and probably most people's eye's come off as discrimination based on race.

I’ve told her this before… In one ear, and out the other.

[Amnesia]

BTW Mr A.... Im quite impressed with your ability. I think I'll recruit you to handle my petty arguments with the little people I don't want to waste my time on