why can't men wear skirts ?

[KiltyCol]

yeah- U just gotta drive round Worcestershire in the hope u see him.

Just watch out for a Vauxhall Vectra VXR with kilted driver on those narrow twisting Worcestershire lanes. I sometimes stray into Warwickshire or West Midlands counties too - So does the River Cole.

I am getting another kilt in August - a belated birthday present from someone. It will be made to measure, hence the wait.

[KiltyCol]

....etc.....

Oh, so u drive a tin pot Shed as well?

It does the job admirably!

No DOUGHBALL here - honestly!

[KiltyCol]

What was wrong with it?

[KiltyCol]

What was wrong with it?

Everything just fell apart!

Reg no was YT 03 XER 2.2 SRi

Bought May '03, sold May '05 with 86,000 on the clock

Was yours made in Germany or Ellesmere Port? Mine is German. OK so far. My 4th Vectra Estate.

[Usquanigo]

yeah- U just gotta drive round Worcestershire in the hope u see him.

Just watch out for a Vauxhall Vectra VXR with kilted driver on those narrow twisting Worcestershire lanes. I sometimes stray into Warwickshire or West Midlands counties too - So does the River Cole.

I am getting another kilt in August - a belated birthday present from someone. It will be made to measure, hence the wait.

Here's a couple of nice little Vauxhalls for ya -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F223KOnKwI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A5F5uUO2oU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE69RoNGH0E

[KiltyCol]

Thanks Usquanigo.
I drow a VXR8 round Oulton Park last summer at a track day. I also drove VXR versions of Corsa, Vectra and Astra round the track there, plus activities like high speed handbrake turn parallel parking and J-turns etc. Great fun. I didn't wear a kilt or skirt on that occasion.
You do need to take extra care with a kilt getting in and out of the high sided Recaro racing seats, but I have got used to it, now.
Sorry to those who feel that I have deviated from the thread topic.

[Guest]

Finally, the the topic is taking a more serious tone to it. I had a Vectra 2.0 DTi, it was a noisy beast . I used to disappoint people at bus stops thinking their bus had arrived

The car looked good, it was an 03 plate (BN03***), but the engine and the performance seriously let it down. You had to shout at your passengers just to be heard. It may have been as refined as an Essex Girl, but it's range could put a coach to shame... It was efficient, something that's important as that miser Gordon Brown is trying to tax us all off the road...

Never driven it in a kilt or pencil skirt though, unlike KiltyCol... Let's see now the new Insignia, out next month does for Vauxhall's reputation. In the end, I sold the old girl for a Passat. Much classier, and it will hold its value. The problem is, that Vectra's are lowly fleet cars, so they flood the forecourt and residuals are very low. Just look at www.autotrader.co.uk, there's tons of them out there...

The new CDTi 150's are better, but that slab-sided design, and the level of kit in some of the range, will make people shop elsewhere. Avoid the Exclusiv (Poverty-Spec). Rear manual windows across most of Vauxhall's range, compared to competitors like Audi or Ford.

I can blow away any Vectra in my TDi 130.... And I can even get it chipped to 175BHP!

So can men wear skirts? Yes, but be prepared to be laughed at. Make sure you don't snag your hem getting into your Vectra, Colin...

[KiltyCol]

The Vectra VXR is 280 bhp Turbo V6, and drives really smooth and quiet. It is great fun to drive. I am sorry that some of you have had disappointment with Vectras.

[Usquanigo]

In the end, I sold the old girl for a Passat. Much classier, and it will hold its value. The problem is, that Vectra's are lowly fleet cars, so they flood the forecourt and residuals are very low. Just look at www.autotrader.co.uk, there's tons of them out there...

Never buy a car - ANY car, for percieved "value" or retention of value. Unless you are buying a McClaren F1 and plan to sit on it for 20 years, you WILL lose money over the life of the car. So just do yourself a favor and get a car that you WANT, a car that you plan to keep indefinitely. Value is irrelevant if you never sell it.

And if you can't afford to run such a beast or toy every day (or if you're like me and simply don't want to run it every day), then get a throw-away beater for daily driving duties, something that's cheap and efficient, and drive it into the ground, then replace it. Even in a beater resale value is irrelevent.

[Usquanigo]

The Vectra VXR is 280 bhp Turbo V6, and drives really smooth and quiet. It is great fun to drive. I am sorry that some of you have had disappointment with Vectras.

Aussie made V6s - out of the GM_Holden plant in Melbourne, also sold to Saab and Alfa Romeo for use in their high end V6 models..

(..and then finished off to each companies own spec's in their own factories ).

Saab is GM also. Could be nice cars if they weren't wrong wheel drive (FWD).

[Guest]

Alf, I noticed how Colin deftly avoided your question of if he'd be out in skirts this weekend...

Perhaps we've all found common ground in our hatred of the Vectra... Esp. the early diesels

I guess this gives some of the Skirt-Cafe members to 'normalize' and do things like us....

Colin, I'm going out in trousers tonight - wanna join me?!

As for the Holden, we know it as the Monaro over here, but fuel prices at the moment don't make it a wise purchase. £1.30 for diesel and rising, petrol is pushing £1.20 already per litre. I don't think we'll be driving about for much longer if Gordon Brown keeps this nonsense going. The closest I'll get to a Volvo or Mercedes is an Arriva bus at the moment...

[Usquanigo]

Alf, I noticed how Colin deftly avoided your question of if he'd be out in skirts this weekend...

Perhaps we've all found common ground in our hatred of the Vectra... Esp. the early diesels

I guess this gives some of the Skirt-Cafe members to 'normalize' and do things like us....

Colin, I'm going out in trousers tonight - wanna join me?!

As for the Holden, we know it as the Monaro over here, but fuel prices at the moment don't make it a wise purchase. £1.30 for diesel and rising, petrol is pushing £1.20 already per litre. I don't think we'll be driving about for much longer if Gordon Brown keeps this nonsense going. The closest I'll get to a Volvo or Mercedes is an Arriva bus at the moment...

I'm splitting the difference and going out in shorts tonight. :p (once I get done working tonight)

As for gas, it's not cheap here either, but as I said, that's the point of a beater. You are lucky in that you can snag a VW Lupo diesel and get kick-ass mpg. We can't. I save the firebreathing stuff for the nice summer weekends.

[KiltyCol]

Sorry Alf, I wasn't evading your question. I have just been too busy to log on since mid-yesterday.
I will be wearing a variety to suit the occasion this weekend. Kilt, shorts, sarong. I don't wear the sarong out of doors though.
I have just been enquiring by 'phone with a view to buying yet another kilt - in addition to the Scottish National Tartan one already on order.

It is worth a note that clothes don't make a person different. I am the same husband, dad, brother, friend, employee, neighbour etc. whatever I wear.

Ref the Passat - I have owned several VWs and like them, but the Passat Estate boot wasn't big enough or the right shape for all my gear. The Vectra Estate fits everything perfectly to the mm. I have owned several Vauxhalls, and have always been reasonably happy with them. The bigger engines are definitely much quieter than the smaller engines for the same car.

Have a good weekend all.

[KiltyCol]

Thanks for the response Col.

That's O.K.
Have a good day.

[Guest]

KiltyCol, You must carry alot of equipment in your spare time...

My Passat is a 2003 model (Mk5), it has plenty of space. I was thinking of a Vectra Estate (a 1.9CDTi) it had the better engine than the old DTi's, but it's an ugly beast .

It's something about the quality of a German car that makes me feel reassured. I'll be able to sell it on for almost as much as I bought it. Saying that, the Vectra handles like it runs on rails but it was never a pleasant time down at the Dealer's. Incompetence and rudeness seems to be the order of the day. I had one guy ruin the beige interior of my new DualFuel company car, just 2 weeks old (power steering packed up ) as he never covered the seats. No apology, either.

When you go in a VW dealership, people call you 'sir' rather than the 'what the f*** do you want?' kinda responses when you go to the Parts desk @ Vauxhall... As for PNG Waltham Cross, don't get me started on them people...

Good to hear you're ordering a kilt Colin, it's better than skirts IMHO. Ever tried Guilty Kilts www.guiltykilts.com ? Their stuff looks top of the range, a far cry from the traditional Scottish stuff. They just need to come down in price, and more guys would buy them