Do you think we'll ever see the back of cigarettes?

Do you think we'll ever see the back of cigarettes?

Despite Government regulation which has increasingly side-lined smokers in society, it’s thought that about 22% of the UK’s adult population still light up on a regular basis.

But the fastest growing trend among people looking for a hit of nicotine is actually ‘vaping’, or to you and me, smoking an electronic cigarette.

Figures show vaping is growing at an incredible rate – e-cigarette sales are up 340%. A report by ASH (Action on Smoking and Health) suggests that 11% of daily smokers have now tried e-cigarettes and 25% have used e-cigarettes in the past.

So is vaping the future of smoking?

Well, research would suggest it still has some way to go. When Brits were asked if e-cigarettes should be banned in various places, over 80% of people responded that they should be banned on public transport, 71% said a ban should extend to pubs and more than half even claimed they would like to see them banned in the street.

With the number of people using e-cigarettes on the rise, it seems clear the latest battle ground for anti-smoking campaigners will be the vaping market.

EU lawmakers are currently working on stricter regulations for e-cigarette companies. We spoke to Richard Russell, from electronic cigarette company Diamond Mist: ‘It seems counter-intuitive but we are absolutely in favour of stricter regulation. At the moment, the e-cigarette market has many ethical companies operating within it but there are also plenty of cowboy operators and we believe the public will continue to not have trust in our products while these companies exist.

‘If regulation is what it takes to reduce the market just to companies who care for their customers and operate in the correct way, then we are totally for it.

‘The recent regulations restricting under-18s from buying the products was a good start, but if we are to turn around the kind of polls that tell us the general public want these products banning in the street, despite the fact they only give off water vapour, we need to go much further’.

So where does this leave the future of smoking? Is it in the hands of the ‘smoker’ or will European legislation settle the debate once and for all? 

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  1. by Parmenion59 22nd Mar 2014 07:05

    The draconian smoking ban was brought in because of the unsubstantiated so-called health risks from passive smoke.
    As e-cigs only emit water vapour, are we to ban steaming kettles as well?
    This is not about health. This is about maintaining Big Pharma profits from their useless patchygummythingys.

  2. by harleyrider1778 22nd Mar 2014 13:24

    They have created a fear that is based on nothingchr(226)chr(128)chr(153)chr(226)chr(128)chr(153)
    World-renowned pulmonologist, president of the prestigious Research Institute Necker for the last decade, Professor Philippe Even, now retired, tells us that hechr(226)chr(128)chr(153)s convinced of the absence of harm from passive smoking. A shocking interview.

    What do the studies on passive smoking tell us?

    PHILIPPE EVEN. There are about a hundred studies on the issue. First surprise: 40% of them claim a total absence of harmful effects of passive smoking on health. The remaining 60% estimate that the cancer risk is multiplied by 0.02 for the most optimistic and by 0.15 for the more pessimistic chr(226)chr(128)chr(166) compared to a risk multiplied by 10 or 20 for active smoking! It is therefore negligible. Clearly, the harm is either nonexistent, or it is extremely low.

    It is an indisputable scientific fact. Anti-tobacco associations report 3 000-6 000 deaths per year in France ...

    I am curious to know their sources. No study has ever produced such a result.

    Many experts argue that passive smoking is also responsible for cardiovascular disease and other asthma attacks. Not you?

    They donchr(226)chr(128)chr(153)t base it on any solid scientific evidence. Take the case of cardiovascular diseases: the four main causes are obesity, high cholesterol, hypertension and diabetes. To determine whether passive smoking is an aggravating factor, there should be a study on people who have none of these four symptoms. But this was never done. Regarding chronic bronchitis, although the role of active smoking is undeniable, that of passive smoking is yet to be proven. For asthma, it is indeed a contributing factor ... but not greater than pollen!

    The purpose of the ban on smoking in public places, however, was to protect non-smokers. It was thus based on nothing?

    Absolutely nothing! The psychosis began with the publication of a report by the IARC, International Agency for Research on Cancer, which depends on the WHO (Editor's note: World Health Organization). The report released in 2002 says it is now proven that passive smoking carries serious health risks, but without showing the evidence. Where are the data? What was the methodology? It's everything but a scientific approach. It was creating fear that is not based on anything.

    Why would anti-tobacco organizations wave a threat that does not exist?

    The anti-smoking campaigns and higher cigarette prices having failed, they had to find a new way to lower the number of smokers. By waving the threat of passive smoking, they found a tool that really works: social pressure. In good faith, non-smokers felt in danger and started to stand up against smokers. As a result, passive smoking has become a public health problem, paving the way for the Evin Law and the decree banning smoking in public places. The cause may be good, but I do not think it is good to legislate on a lie. And the worst part is that it does not work: since the entry into force of the decree, cigarette sales are rising again.

    Why not speak up earlier?

    As a civil servant, dean of the largest medical faculty in France, I was held to confidentiality. If I had deviated from official positions, I would have had to pay the consequences. Today, I am a free man.

    Le Parisien.................

  3. by harleyrider1778 22nd Mar 2014 13:24

    This pretty well destroys the Myth of second hand smoke:

    Lungs from pack-a-day smokers safe for transplant, study finds.

    By JoNel Aleccia, Staff Writer, NBC News.

    Using lung transplants from heavy smokers may sound like a cruel joke, but a new study finds that organs taken from people who puffed a pack a day for more than 20 years are likely safe.

    Whatchr(226)chr(128)chr(153)s more, the analysis of lung transplant data from the U.S. between 2005 and 2011 confirms what transplant experts say they already know: For some patients on a crowded organ waiting list, lungs from smokers are better than none.

    chr(226)chr(128)chr(156)I think people are grateful just to have a shot at getting lungs,chr(226)chr(128)chr(157) said Dr. Sharven Taghavi, a cardiovascular surgical resident at Temple University Hospital in Philadelphia, who led the new study...........................

    Ive done the math here and this is how it works out with second ahnd smoke and people inhaling it!

    The 16 cities study conducted by the U.S. DEPT OF ENERGY and later by Oakridge National laboratories discovered:

    Cigarette smoke, bartenders annual exposure to smoke rises, at most, to the equivalent of 6 cigarettes/year.


    A bartender would have to work in second hand smoke for 2433 years to get an equivalent dose.

    Then the average non-smoker in a ventilated restaurant for an hour would have to go back and forth each day for 119,000 years to get an equivalent 20 years of smoking a pack a day! Pretty well impossible ehh!

  4. by Penny 22nd Mar 2014 13:44

    I think people are sick of being told what to do by the Nanny State. I think even many non-smokers are waking up to the utter LIES that we have been told around the smoking issue, by the politicians we voted into power; and I think the smokers will probably make their feelings very clear, in the elections next year. Otherwise, I think that in order to get medical treatment, more and more of us are going to have to LIE when asked about our smoking habits, Which is going to skew their stupid statistics a bit, but can't be helped. And I'm off out to buy a baby doll and a cheap car seat, which I'll be driving around while I continue to smoke in my own car. If the State is stupid enough to try and dictate what parents can and can't do in their own cars, now, I'm happy enough for it to pay officers to attempt to arrest people for driving baby dolls around. And beyond that, I think that this Government and the Labour Government before that have (more than ANY OTHER!) made it OK for people to HATE, HATE, HATE those who might have made different lifestyle choices to them. I've never known a Britain so full of people hating one another, and attacking one another. They have created a country of miseries, all out to have a go at one another, and tolerance has gone down the pan. There is a lot of anger amongst the smokers of this country, and before long, it is going to boil over. When civil unrest starts in earnest in this country, the Coalition and Labour Governments will only have themselves to blame.

  5. by CyZane 22nd Mar 2014 14:08

    There is no debate to be had. E-cigarettes are not tobacco and they don't emit smoke. This artificial debate is created with pharmaceutical money because e-cigarettes are defeating Big Pharma's billion dollar marketing scheme of creating a fear of second hand smoke to market their virtually useless patches, gums, inhalers, lozenges etc... when and where one can't smoke.

  6. by harleyrider1778 22nd Mar 2014 15:24

    Yet a simple look at the chemistry shows us that its:

    About 90% of secondary smoke is composed of water vapor and ordinary air with a minor amount of carbon dioxide. The volume of water vapor of second hand smoke becomes even larger as it quickly disperses into the air,depending upon the humidity factors within a set location indoors or outdoors. Exhaled smoke from a smoker will provide 20% more water vapor to the smoke as it exists the smokers mouth.

    4 % is carbon monoxide.

    6 % is those supposed 4,000 chemicals to be found in tobacco smoke. Unfortunatley for the smoke free advocates these supposed chemicals are more theorized than actually found.What is found is so small to even call them threats to humans is beyond belief.Nanograms,picograms and femptograms......
    (1989 Report of the Surgeon General p. 80).

  7. by Robert Copia 22nd Mar 2014 19:01

    At age 62, I have been a smoker since 6th grade. It was a part of our culture. Since my auntchr(226)chr(128)chr(153)s passing in 2003, due to lung cancer caused by her smoking, I tried hard to quit. Nicotine gum helped me cut down but any kind of stress and I was back to compulsive smoking. I took the anti-smoking drug ZYBAN for two days. It made me feel very strange. Three and one half years ago, I used my first e-cig and I have been tobacco free ever since. My health has improved drastically. No coughing, The shortness of breath when climbing stairs is 90% gone. I still use the ecig and have no desire to use tobacco. I am considering going into the ecig business and I have started reading the ecig news. Banning, crackdowns, fears ,concerns, questions, gateway, fears, harming children is all that I read..
    Hysteria over a chr(226)chr(128)chr(156)personal nicotine vaporizerchr(226)chr(128)chr(157)??? A small lithium battery,( lithium batteries power cellphones, laptop computers, pacemakers equipment on jet airliners etc.,) heats an element that turns nicotine liquid ( consisting of nicotine the same as in the nicotine gum paid for by Medicare and Medicaid, and food grade flavorings, in a base of propylene glycol which is rated GRAS, generally regarded as safe) in the Code of Federal Regulations Title 21, section 184-1666, and is found in many food products, asthma inhalers, the anti-smoking drug ZYBAN, toothpaste etc,) into vapor like your tea kettle.
    I was awakened by the Bloomberg, 2/19/2014, article, chr(226)chr(128)chr(156) GLAXO Memo Shows Drug Industry Lobbying on E-Cigaretteschr(226)chr(128)chr(157). Glaxo-Smith Kline is the 4th largest Pharma company and it sells nicotine gum, lozenges, patches inhalers and the anti-smoking drug ZYBAN which I learned was actually the mind-altering psychiatric drug Wellbutrin. I then went on to read the Forbes 7/2/2012, article, chr(226)chr(128)chr(156)Feds Say Dr. Drew Was Paid by GLAXO TO Talk Up Antidepressantchr(226)chr(128)chr(157) Forbes in included a link to the 72 page Justice Department complaint against GLAXO which involved the illegal, deceptive and fraudulent marketing of antidepressants to children and adolescents. through their Doctors.
    New York Times 7?2/2012, GLAXO Agrees To Pay THREE BILLION Fraud Settlement ( and pleads guilty to criminal charges). after a ten year investigation started by chr(226)chr(128)chr(156)whistle blowerschr(226)chr(128)chr(157).
    The New York Times, 12/14/2013, chr(226)chr(128)chr(156)The Selling of ADHD,( attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) documents the depths that Pharma will go to sell their drugs to children and adolescents through their Doctors..
    I once considered myself well-informed but until reading this material, I had no idea of the actions of BIG PHARMA, which I consider the chr(226)chr(128)chr(156)Crime of the Centurychr(226)chr(128)chr(157) I encourage you to read this material.
    It is conceivable that the ecig could make nicotine gum, patches inhalers etc. and the mind altering psychiatric anti-smoking drugs (GLAXO is working on a new one GSK598809) obsolete, or at minimum reduce the sales. Big Pharma and the politicians that do their bidding agree that this cannot be allowed.
    Who is harmed by this? Those who are near hopelessly addicted to cigarettes and the thousands of dangerous chemicals they contain. This propaganda campaign by Big Pharma and the politicians that they control is simply meant to scare people especially the elderly and dissuade them from trying a chr(226)chr(128)chr(156)personal nicotine vaporizerchr(226)chr(128)chr(157)
    Take the anti-smoking drugs?? Read the black box warnings. Would you recommend them to your mother?

  8. by Chris Sorochin 22nd Mar 2014 19:56

    Throughout history, not a single campaign to deprive people of things they enjoy has fully succeeded. I take comfort in that fact. The human spirit always triumphs.